Comments on: Dueling real estate guides hit the streets of Northfield http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/ Blogging and podcasting the people, issues, and events of Northfield, MN Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:04:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Locally Grown - Blogging and podcasting the people, issues, and events of Northfield, MN » Oldest (almost?) house in Northfield to be leveled this week or next http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-19368 Locally Grown - Blogging and podcasting the people, issues, and events of Northfield, MN » Oldest (almost?) house in Northfield to be leveled this week or next Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:27:52 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-19368 [...] there’s not been a for-sale sign in the yard, nor an ad in the Northfield News or the REG, nor a listing on the MLS about the house, nor anything on Carleton’s web site about it. If [...] [...] there’s not been a for-sale sign in the yard, nor an ad in the Northfield News or the REG, nor a listing on the MLS about the house, nor anything on Carleton’s web site about it. If [...]

]]> By: Tom Swift http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17946 Tom Swift Wed, 23 May 2007 14:37:12 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17946 This reader — sorry I am tardy to comment (I belie my name frequently) — always appreciates when Griff brings up this general topic, especially as the matter pertains to <a href="http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/790/" rel="nofollow">issues</a> that arise in publications intended as journalistic enterprises. The word journalism is thrown around a lot these days. And just as this site <a href="http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/849/" rel="nofollow">has discussed</a> a code of conduct for bloggers I think it’s useful to mention that the fact that any of us can start our own virtual newspaper or magazine doesn’t mean every one of us with a blog or a podcast — or a sharp-looking print publication like Rob’s; my congrats as well — is engaged in journalism. In fact, despite notable exceptions offered on this site, most aren’t. We now have so many media choices, which is terrific. But because we do, I would argue, the distinction is especially important. There’s no single agreed upon definition but — this is my attempt to contribute two cents in case you gather that roundtable, Anne — I’d say in order to call something a piece of journalism, like <a href="http://www.rebeccablood.net/essays/what_is_journalism.html" rel="nofollow">this blogger</a>, I would say that it would have to be third-party account that adds to or reveals the record of verifiable facts. This reader — sorry I am tardy to comment (I belie my name frequently) — always appreciates when Griff brings up this general topic, especially as the matter pertains to issues that arise in publications intended as journalistic enterprises.

The word journalism is thrown around a lot these days. And just as this site has discussed a code of conduct for bloggers I think it’s useful to mention that the fact that any of us can start our own virtual newspaper or magazine doesn’t mean every one of us with a blog or a podcast — or a sharp-looking print publication like Rob’s; my congrats as well — is engaged in journalism. In fact, despite notable exceptions offered on this site, most aren’t.

We now have so many media choices, which is terrific. But because we do, I would argue, the distinction is especially important.

There’s no single agreed upon definition but — this is my attempt to contribute two cents in case you gather that roundtable, Anne — I’d say in order to call something a piece of journalism, like this blogger, I would say that it would have to be third-party account that adds to or reveals the record of verifiable facts.

]]> By: Griff Wigley http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17935 Griff Wigley Wed, 23 May 2007 04:18:29 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17935 It looks like I might have to eat some crow here. Anne Bretts wrote: <blockquote>As long as there is no requirement to buy an ad to have a story published, and the pieces aren’t blatant self-promotions, there’s no problem with journalistic integrity. The writers are clearly identified, so there’s no secrecy about their perspective. This is, after all, an advertising publication, not a real estate news publication.</blockquote> That makes sense to me, Anne. Rob, looks like I owe you at least one beer. It looks like I might have to eat some crow here. Anne Bretts wrote:

As long as there is no requirement to buy an ad to have a story published, and the pieces aren’t blatant self-promotions, there’s no problem with journalistic integrity. The writers are clearly identified, so there’s no secrecy about their perspective. This is, after all, an advertising publication, not a real estate news publication.

That makes sense to me, Anne.

Rob, looks like I owe you at least one beer.

]]> By: Tracy Davis http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17877 Tracy Davis Mon, 21 May 2007 13:05:58 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17877 I'd like to hear the inside dirt on the publication that almost wasn't.... I’d like to hear the inside dirt on the publication that almost wasn’t….

]]> By: Anne Bretts http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17851 Anne Bretts Sat, 19 May 2007 14:32:08 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17851 Congratulations on your Guide, Rob! As long as there is no requirement to buy an ad to have a story published, and the pieces aren't blatant self-promotions, there's no problem with journalistic integrity. The writers are clearly identified, so there's no secrecy about their perspective. This is, after all, an advertising publication, not a real estate news publication. If it were, then you'd have to have people with no relationship with the advertisers do the writing, and I can tell you that the likelihood of getting people to produce quality stories for free is about zero. And the cost of paying for the cost of producing the publication and paying for stories would make it unprofitable. I work for a commercial real estate publication in the Twin Cities facing the same issues on a larger scale. This whole issue of competition and journalistic integrity and the relationship of the media outlets in town would be a great public roundtable discussion. There are so many levels and layers and variations in the media now, and the "good old days" of journalistic integrity really weren't what they seem now. If you're up for a discussion, let's pick a place and invite all the players. I can get a couple of j-school or media participants as well, if we want some industry perspective. Congratulations on your Guide, Rob!
As long as there is no requirement to buy an ad to have a story published, and the pieces aren’t blatant self-promotions, there’s no problem with journalistic integrity. The writers are clearly identified, so there’s no secrecy about their perspective. This is, after all, an advertising publication, not a real estate news publication. If it were, then you’d have to have people with no relationship with the advertisers do the writing, and I can tell you that the likelihood of getting people to produce quality stories for free is about zero. And the cost of paying for the cost of producing the publication and paying for stories would make it unprofitable. I work for a commercial real estate publication in the Twin Cities facing the same issues on a larger scale.
This whole issue of competition and journalistic integrity and the relationship of the media outlets in town would be a great public roundtable discussion.
There are so many levels and layers and variations in the media now, and the “good old days” of journalistic integrity really weren’t what they seem now.
If you’re up for a discussion, let’s pick a place and invite all the players. I can get a couple of j-school or media participants as well, if we want some industry perspective.

]]> By: kathryn jamison http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17834 kathryn jamison Fri, 18 May 2007 19:51:16 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17834 The real answer is Yes Indeed we certainly did. I think I speak for all of the 300+ women who were entertained by our town's most... courageos men. Many many thanks to those who organized and got this event off the ground and to those who took their clothes off -- well their jackets anyway -- shop local. I wonder Ross, if your question begs another answer as well? Another layer behind the event that tried to shut the whole thing down? Can we talk about that here? The real answer is Yes Indeed we certainly did. I think I speak for all of the 300+ women who were entertained by our town’s most… courageos men. Many many thanks to those who organized and got this event off the ground and to those who took their clothes off — well their jackets anyway — shop local.

I wonder Ross, if your question begs another answer as well? Another layer behind the event that tried to shut the whole thing down? Can we talk about that here?

]]> By: Ross Currier http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17833 Ross Currier Fri, 18 May 2007 17:40:26 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17833 Hey Kathryn: The real question of the week is... ...did you and Wendy Smith have fun at Girls Nite Out? Ross Hey Kathryn:

The real question of the week is…

…did you and Wendy Smith have fun at

Girls Nite Out?

Ross

]]> By: kathryn jamison http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17831 kathryn jamison Fri, 18 May 2007 16:40:20 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17831 Oh my Ross, now the story just got a lot juicier -- down right stickier than fly paper. Oh my Ross, now the story just got a lot juicier — down right stickier than fly paper.

]]> By: Rob Schanilec http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17815 Rob Schanilec Fri, 18 May 2007 03:11:58 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17815 I'm game to entertain the notion. I’m game to entertain the notion.

]]> By: John S. Thomas http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17811 John S. Thomas Fri, 18 May 2007 02:10:57 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17811 How about getting Rob to do a weekly news magazine? 8-) How about getting Rob to do a weekly news magazine? 8-)

]]> By: Ross Currier http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17808 Ross Currier Fri, 18 May 2007 01:38:50 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17808 YES!!! YES!!!

]]> By: Griff Wigley http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17806 Griff Wigley Fri, 18 May 2007 01:02:17 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17806 Rob, like Mary Rossing, I much prefer the locally-written content of your Guides. But I'd like to see you preserve your editorial integrity for the day when you publish the Northfield version of The Rake! Rob, like Mary Rossing, I much prefer the locally-written content of your Guides. But I’d like to see you preserve your editorial integrity for the day when you publish the Northfield version of The Rake!

]]> By: Mary Rossing http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17802 Mary Rossing Thu, 17 May 2007 19:26:25 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17802 Personally I would pick up a guide that had local photos feature over generic content, and it doesn't matter to me that the writers are also supporting it with their dollars--which came first? I think that with this guide and the local features and the very successful entertainment guide that we can't be far away from convincing Rob to publish a northfield magazine with profiles and stories about our community--maybe including some history features a la Scriver Scribbler--just dreaming! Personally I would pick up a guide that had local photos feature
over generic content, and it doesn’t matter to me that the
writers are also supporting it with their dollars–which came first?
I think that with this guide and the local features and the very
successful entertainment guide that we can’t be far away from
convincing Rob to publish a northfield magazine with profiles
and stories about our community–maybe including some
history features a la Scriver Scribbler–just dreaming!

]]> By: Ross Currier http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17798 Ross Currier Thu, 17 May 2007 18:14:34 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17798 Oh Griff, there's such a juicy story behind this story. Too bad you don't know it. Ross Oh Griff,

there’s such a juicy story behind this story. Too bad you don’t know it.

Ross

]]> By: Rob Schanilec http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/1236/#comment-17791 Rob Schanilec Thu, 17 May 2007 13:13:42 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1236/#comment-17791 Griff, I really appreciate your perspective. And we asked ourselves the same questions. Our philosophy on the editorial content in the Real Estate Guide is that we have a plethora of local experts with relevant and valuable perspectives. We're reaching out for their editorial contributions with the criteria that their contributions not be self-promotional, but rather informational. Out of gratitude and because it's the right thing to do we include a bio and information on how to contact the author. It also furthers our mission to infuse home-town into the work we do. Advertising is not a requirement for publication, as evidenced by the article on spring cleaning for which there is not an ad. But it comes as no surprise that these local experts would want to support publications like ours and consider them good vehicles for their display ads. Stay tuned for a downloadable PDF, but in the meantime - both of our guides (Real Estate and Entertainment) are available at key locations around town. Griff,

I really appreciate your perspective. And we asked ourselves the same questions.

Our philosophy on the editorial content in the Real Estate Guide is that we have a plethora of local experts with relevant and valuable perspectives. We’re reaching out for their editorial contributions with the criteria that their contributions not be self-promotional, but rather informational.

Out of gratitude and because it’s the right thing to do we include a bio and information on how to contact the author. It also furthers our mission to infuse home-town into the work we do.

Advertising is not a requirement for publication, as evidenced by the article on spring cleaning for which there is not an ad. But it comes as no surprise that these local experts would want to support publications like ours and consider them good vehicles for their display ads.

Stay tuned for a downloadable PDF, but in the meantime - both of our guides (Real Estate and Entertainment) are available at key locations around town.

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