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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on Annexation in the Northwest by Tracy Davis</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3304/#comment-59748</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann O:  I agree with you that Bruce A. "gets it", but that doesn't mean that people who disagree with his or your conclusions on this particular annexation issue don't.  There may be different means of approaching shared goals, and a different assessment of what the priorities are.  I'm trying to get away from the "oh my god we're reducing ag land" aspect of this annexation request because there are plenty of other concerns that can be more directly tied to our existing plans and regulations (and thus, as Anne B. pointed out, more legally defensible if ever challenged).  I believe it's more constructive to the process to focus on those things.  

Kiffi, what I meant in my comment about Northfield being in a better position to maintain a greenbelt is simply that Northfield as a city has more regulatory tools available than a township does &lt;i&gt; if the political will exists to do so.&lt;/i&gt;  I'm just point that out, but I'm not holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann O:  I agree with you that Bruce A. &#8220;gets it&#8221;, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that people who disagree with his or your conclusions on this particular annexation issue don&#8217;t.  There may be different means of approaching shared goals, and a different assessment of what the priorities are.  I&#8217;m trying to get away from the &#8220;oh my god we&#8217;re reducing ag land&#8221; aspect of this annexation request because there are plenty of other concerns that can be more directly tied to our existing plans and regulations (and thus, as Anne B. pointed out, more legally defensible if ever challenged).  I believe it&#8217;s more constructive to the process to focus on those things.  </p>
<p>Kiffi, what I meant in my comment about Northfield being in a better position to maintain a greenbelt is simply that Northfield as a city has more regulatory tools available than a township does <i> if the political will exists to do so.</i>  I&#8217;m just point that out, but I&#8217;m not holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roder&#8217;s a finalist for city admin job in Norfolk, Nebraska by Britt Ackerman</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3361/#comment-59742</link>
		<dc:creator>Britt Ackerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that I think about it, Norfolk and Dennison Iowa have a lot in common. (I read the book.). There is a challenging economic shift going on. How to bring money into the community, how to keep it there, what do we do now that we can't farm? There is a similarity of opinions and beliefs, or perhaps I should say a singularity. You can almost hear the sucking sound of the brain drain as local high school graduates flee to Des Moines, Omaha, elsewhere.

Meanwhile, a local immigrant populace moves in and does fairly well, relatively speaking. This causes resentment.

It would be a challenging position, surely, and the city administrator would likely think our concerns and passionate actions over things like annexing a few hundred acres or supporting a local business were, well, trivial.  Perhaps Mr. Roder would enjoy and succeed at working on serious, challenging matters everyday rather than dealing with piddly shit all day.  

On the other hand, maybe the greater challenge is to work in our setting, where you are continuously questioned and daily held accountable by the local, active community. It may be hard to keep things in check here without a singularity of culture, with an active constituency. Maybe that's why our city government has broken down. Because you can't please everyone all the time and you need to say NO and move on. Annex the darned land already! Do something! I am tired of focus groups and consultants and endless discussion. A timeline should be established, and when the end is reached VOTE! Instead of tabling action items to allow for more input, more questions, when everything has already been said, take action. Someone will always be unhappy, but you can't capitulate to everyone all the time, or nothing will ever get done.  Seven new potential liquor store sites again?!? This is, what, the fourth round of consultants? Build the darned thing already, how much more money are we going to spend hemming and hawing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I think about it, Norfolk and Dennison Iowa have a lot in common. (I read the book.). There is a challenging economic shift going on. How to bring money into the community, how to keep it there, what do we do now that we can&#8217;t farm? There is a similarity of opinions and beliefs, or perhaps I should say a singularity. You can almost hear the sucking sound of the brain drain as local high school graduates flee to Des Moines, Omaha, elsewhere.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, a local immigrant populace moves in and does fairly well, relatively speaking. This causes resentment.</p>
<p>It would be a challenging position, surely, and the city administrator would likely think our concerns and passionate actions over things like annexing a few hundred acres or supporting a local business were, well, trivial.  Perhaps Mr. Roder would enjoy and succeed at working on serious, challenging matters everyday rather than dealing with piddly shit all day.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, maybe the greater challenge is to work in our setting, where you are continuously questioned and daily held accountable by the local, active community. It may be hard to keep things in check here without a singularity of culture, with an active constituency. Maybe that&#8217;s why our city government has broken down. Because you can&#8217;t please everyone all the time and you need to say NO and move on. Annex the darned land already! Do something! I am tired of focus groups and consultants and endless discussion. A timeline should be established, and when the end is reached VOTE! Instead of tabling action items to allow for more input, more questions, when everything has already been said, take action. Someone will always be unhappy, but you can&#8217;t capitulate to everyone all the time, or nothing will ever get done.  Seven new potential liquor store sites again?!? This is, what, the fourth round of consultants? Build the darned thing already, how much more money are we going to spend hemming and hawing?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Course Cafe to open now open in The Crossing Business Center by Dean Sorenmann</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/2784/#comment-59741</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Sorenmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Final Course Cafe, a business about desserts and coffee, truly had the promise of being an outstanding destination for Northfield and its visitors.   Unfortunately, the market did not respond as quickly as was necessary to sustain operations and make it a long term success.  My family and I are grateful to our loyal customers and we hope to see you again soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Final Course Cafe, a business about desserts and coffee, truly had the promise of being an outstanding destination for Northfield and its visitors.   Unfortunately, the market did not respond as quickly as was necessary to sustain operations and make it a long term success.  My family and I are grateful to our loyal customers and we hope to see you again soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on Annexation in the Northwest by Anne Bretts</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3304/#comment-59740</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Bretts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I wonder how the city can sustain a legal challenge to a refusal to annex based on promoting sprawl, since all the arguments for annexation are the same ones the city used to justify the hospital just a couple of years ago. 
Is 'do as I say, not as I do' a legal defense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I wonder how the city can sustain a legal challenge to a refusal to annex based on promoting sprawl, since all the arguments for annexation are the same ones the city used to justify the hospital just a couple of years ago.<br />
Is &#8216;do as I say, not as I do&#8217; a legal defense?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on Annexation in the Northwest by Ann Occhiato</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3304/#comment-59739</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Occhiato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally!

Thank you, Bruce, for "getting it".  I have to say that most people involved in this post, and I dare say, the entire "process" are so mired in the minutia of council meetings, who said what, the in's and out's of plans and insider gossip that the big picture is being lost.  

Bruce explained it perfectly.  This is about trying to do a little better than we've gotten in America up to this point as far as sustainability is concerned.  We are entering an age when it will no longer be feasible to not consider the consequences to the landscape (and the vital nutrients it supplies) in our business development decisions.  Many people don't want to wake up to the fact that our resources are being rapidly depleted.  And, while this tract of farmland is relatively small when you think in regional terms, this is happening EVERYWHERE EVERY DAY and farmland and open spaces are disappearing.  

Northfield can and should take the opportunity to be a leader in sustainable development instead of the same old tired model that is getting us more of what we've got: spoiled wetlands, contaminated water, disappearing green space and roads roads roads.  Let's embrace a 21st century model of development that supports the needs of everyone and doesn't destroy green spaces, wetlands and viable farmland. 

In addition, my point about decreasing property values wasn't about decreasing property values!  It was about how this decision has tremendous ripple affects for many, many people other than these three landowners and their immediate neighbors, and that we must consider ALL of the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally!</p>
<p>Thank you, Bruce, for &#8220;getting it&#8221;.  I have to say that most people involved in this post, and I dare say, the entire &#8220;process&#8221; are so mired in the minutia of council meetings, who said what, the in&#8217;s and out&#8217;s of plans and insider gossip that the big picture is being lost.  </p>
<p>Bruce explained it perfectly.  This is about trying to do a little better than we&#8217;ve gotten in America up to this point as far as sustainability is concerned.  We are entering an age when it will no longer be feasible to not consider the consequences to the landscape (and the vital nutrients it supplies) in our business development decisions.  Many people don&#8217;t want to wake up to the fact that our resources are being rapidly depleted.  And, while this tract of farmland is relatively small when you think in regional terms, this is happening EVERYWHERE EVERY DAY and farmland and open spaces are disappearing.  </p>
<p>Northfield can and should take the opportunity to be a leader in sustainable development instead of the same old tired model that is getting us more of what we&#8217;ve got: spoiled wetlands, contaminated water, disappearing green space and roads roads roads.  Let&#8217;s embrace a 21st century model of development that supports the needs of everyone and doesn&#8217;t destroy green spaces, wetlands and viable farmland. </p>
<p>In addition, my point about decreasing property values wasn&#8217;t about decreasing property values!  It was about how this decision has tremendous ripple affects for many, many people other than these three landowners and their immediate neighbors, and that we must consider ALL of the consequences.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bridge Square fountain gets some spiffing up by John S. Thomas</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3360/#comment-59737</link>
		<dc:creator>John S. Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A REMINDER: The Commuter Challenge event will be in Bridge Square Friday Morning from 6 AM to 9 AM. Carpool, Vanpool, Walk, or Bike to work!

Information on pooling, biking, and walking, as well as free coffee from Goodbye Blue Monday, and treats from Just Food will be available.

Randy Rosvold, from Metro Commuter Services will be available to answer all of your vanpooling and ridesharing questions. 

This event is being sponsored by the Non-motorized Transportation Task Force, as well as ReNew Northfield.

Stop down and see us this morning! 8-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A REMINDER: The Commuter Challenge event will be in Bridge Square Friday Morning from 6 AM to 9 AM. Carpool, Vanpool, Walk, or Bike to work!</p>
<p>Information on pooling, biking, and walking, as well as free coffee from Goodbye Blue Monday, and treats from Just Food will be available.</p>
<p>Randy Rosvold, from Metro Commuter Services will be available to answer all of your vanpooling and ridesharing questions. </p>
<p>This event is being sponsored by the Non-motorized Transportation Task Force, as well as ReNew Northfield.</p>
<p>Stop down and see us this morning! <img src='http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Course Cafe to open now open in The Crossing Business Center by John S. Thomas</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/2784/#comment-59731</link>
		<dc:creator>John S. Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 09:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Northfield News has a piece this morning: &lt;a href="http://northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=22670" rel="nofollow"&gt;Final Course Closes&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Less than four months in business, the Final Course Cafe is closing.

Owner Dean Sorenmann confirmed on Thursday that his business, co-owned with his wife, Rose, will close sometime in the near future, though a specific date has not been set.

“(The close) will be permanent,” Sorenmann said. “The reasons are purely business-related.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is really too bad. It was a nice place, with great treats, coffee and ice cream.

I loved going there, but when the hours shifted (especially on Sunday mornings), it just didn't work out. We would already be at work by the 7 AM open, and at church by the 11 AM open on Sundays. We would stop in for the occasional ice cream, but the new hours were difficult.

I am sorry to see them close. It was a tough location, especially for pedestrian traffic.

Good luck to Dean and Rose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Northfield News has a piece this morning: <a href="http://northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=22670" rel="nofollow">Final Course Closes</a></p>
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Less than four months in business, the Final Course Cafe is closing.</p>
<p>Owner Dean Sorenmann confirmed on Thursday that his business, co-owned with his wife, Rose, will close sometime in the near future, though a specific date has not been set.</p>
<p>“(The close) will be permanent,” Sorenmann said. “The reasons are purely business-related.”
</p></blockquote>
<p>It is really too bad. It was a nice place, with great treats, coffee and ice cream.</p>
<p>I loved going there, but when the hours shifted (especially on Sunday mornings), it just didn&#8217;t work out. We would already be at work by the 7 AM open, and at church by the 11 AM open on Sundays. We would stop in for the occasional ice cream, but the new hours were difficult.</p>
<p>I am sorry to see them close. It was a tough location, especially for pedestrian traffic.</p>
<p>Good luck to Dean and Rose.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The dark side of our Sesquicentennial: ethnic cleansing and a concentration camp by john george</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3325/#comment-59724</link>
		<dc:creator>john george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly- I'm not the same George. I have only one son. He and my youngest daughter were the only ones who attended high school in Northfield. My three older daughters all graduated from Owatonna Christian School. I must confess that I am a little prejudiced, but I tjhink my kids were pretty good, also. Something about that George surname.

When we moved here 12 years ago, we looked at the house the other George family was selling at the time. Of seven members in each family, there were five common first names. We decided the post office would never figure that one out, so we purchased a different house.

Back to the Native American theme, your wording is excellent. I always appreciate someone who can express their thoughts well in writing. Actually, there were four main languages used in the wars, Navajo, Cherokee, Choctaw and Comanche. Then, there were the different dialects within each language. What a simple, magnificent way to communicate secrets over the not so secret airways. I think it is an excellent example of how cooperation between people groups can accomplish a common goal. I hope we have not lost sight of that in our current times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly- I&#8217;m not the same George. I have only one son. He and my youngest daughter were the only ones who attended high school in Northfield. My three older daughters all graduated from Owatonna Christian School. I must confess that I am a little prejudiced, but I tjhink my kids were pretty good, also. Something about that George surname.</p>
<p>When we moved here 12 years ago, we looked at the house the other George family was selling at the time. Of seven members in each family, there were five common first names. We decided the post office would never figure that one out, so we purchased a different house.</p>
<p>Back to the Native American theme, your wording is excellent. I always appreciate someone who can express their thoughts well in writing. Actually, there were four main languages used in the wars, Navajo, Cherokee, Choctaw and Comanche. Then, there were the different dialects within each language. What a simple, magnificent way to communicate secrets over the not so secret airways. I think it is an excellent example of how cooperation between people groups can accomplish a common goal. I hope we have not lost sight of that in our current times.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The League Observes Local Government by kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3367/#comment-59723</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of how independent the Boards and Commissions should be arose directly from the discussion of funding those groups; there were unfortunate terms used in the discussion such as "lockstep" and "cowboying" that I felt were extremely negative to the idea of volunteer citizen boards who are there to use their areas of expertise in advising the council.

Larry: you are correct in saying that the ultimate authority lies with the council vote/ decision, and therefor the council (IMHO) should not worry about what initiatives the B&#38;Cs want to present, as they (Council) will either support or deny support. 

All these separations are quite clearly made in the orientation manual for elected officials. In the ten years I've been attending council meetings , I have never before heard this come up as a area of concern. 

Perusing Commission minutes looking for perceived possible improprieties does not seem to be a wise use of a council person's time. I would agree with the Mayor and Arnie Nelson that the independence of these citizen Boards and Commissions is important to encourage, as a source of  ideas which the council might wish to consider.

Council and Staff have their hands full with the everyday needs of running the city, and could actually spend a lot more time  on policy discussions. The citizen Bs&#38;Cs have generally been considered to be a valuable resource.

After all, having the aye or nay vote is pretty much the final word; why discourage thoughtful behavior? To do so sends the wrong message. There have been times when it has been very difficult to get enough people willing to volunteer for these important advisory positions. Let's not discourage public input, especially when the council can always choose to not accept it.

Talking about controls, when you already have the ultimate power of the vote, is not a principle straight out of the "Age of Enlightenment".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of how independent the Boards and Commissions should be arose directly from the discussion of funding those groups; there were unfortunate terms used in the discussion such as &#8220;lockstep&#8221; and &#8220;cowboying&#8221; that I felt were extremely negative to the idea of volunteer citizen boards who are there to use their areas of expertise in advising the council.</p>
<p>Larry: you are correct in saying that the ultimate authority lies with the council vote/ decision, and therefor the council (IMHO) should not worry about what initiatives the B&amp;Cs want to present, as they (Council) will either support or deny support. </p>
<p>All these separations are quite clearly made in the orientation manual for elected officials. In the ten years I&#8217;ve been attending council meetings , I have never before heard this come up as a area of concern. </p>
<p>Perusing Commission minutes looking for perceived possible improprieties does not seem to be a wise use of a council person&#8217;s time. I would agree with the Mayor and Arnie Nelson that the independence of these citizen Boards and Commissions is important to encourage, as a source of  ideas which the council might wish to consider.</p>
<p>Council and Staff have their hands full with the everyday needs of running the city, and could actually spend a lot more time  on policy discussions. The citizen Bs&amp;Cs have generally been considered to be a valuable resource.</p>
<p>After all, having the aye or nay vote is pretty much the final word; why discourage thoughtful behavior? To do so sends the wrong message. There have been times when it has been very difficult to get enough people willing to volunteer for these important advisory positions. Let&#8217;s not discourage public input, especially when the council can always choose to not accept it.</p>
<p>Talking about controls, when you already have the ultimate power of the vote, is not a principle straight out of the &#8220;Age of Enlightenment&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on Annexation in the Northwest by Bruce Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; William, In comment #129 you opine "I think this controversy is basically between those who value esthetics and life style versus those who value development." I beg to differ. I think this controversy is between those who think development in a business-as-usual manner is fine, and those who think that Northfield should develop in a different way in the future. Business-as-usual has resulted in development patterns here and just about everywhere else in the U.S. that have led us into innumerable messes, from (yes) sprawl development and the resulting wasteful use of land to near-total dependence on the car (or SUV/minivan/pickup), and the ever-increasing vulnerability of our economy and society (nationally, including Northfield) to spiralling petroleum product prices and possible future petroleum supply disruptions (and dare I say might have just a tad to do with our democratizing Iraq by force).
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is not just about the loss of 530 (or 440, or 335) acres of farm land in Greenvale Township. This is about sprawl development and continual loss of prime farmland every minute to development in the U.S. (see, for example, "&lt;a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9507E4D7163BF937A35753C1A9649C8B63" rel="nofollow"&gt;2 Farm Acres Lost per Minute, Study Says&lt;/a&gt;"). (This has perhaps slowed down as a result of the housing market being in the doldrums, but it has been and remains a huge issue.) It's about what Northfield values, and how we grow as a community. Just about every one of the community values embodied in the City Council-endorsed &lt;a href="http://tesselar.net/blogs/nfldplan/archives/City%20Council%20Approved%20Northfield%20Principles%207-16-07%20.doc" rel="nofollow"&gt;Land Use Principles&lt;/a&gt; would be compromised by the kind of development envisioned for the land included in this annexation request. Are the councilors bobos, or inattentive?&#160; They did endorse these principles, and they are our elected representatives. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While the actions of Northfield are inconsequential in the global sense, I do think we have a moral obligation to think globally and act locally (as much as you might care to deride such a principle).
  Yes, by all means let's create decent jobs locally and develop a sustainable (economically, environmentally and socially) community. Let's do it in a better way than this annexation offers.
  
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&lt;p&gt;&#160;You may disagree totally with any and all of these conclusions. That is your right, and I don't care to (and will not) debate all of these issues ad nauseum here on Locally Grown. I have a life to get on with.
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> William, In comment #129 you opine &#8220;I think this controversy is basically between those who value esthetics and life style versus those who value development.&#8221; I beg to differ. I think this controversy is between those who think development in a business-as-usual manner is fine, and those who think that Northfield should develop in a different way in the future. Business-as-usual has resulted in development patterns here and just about everywhere else in the U.S. that have led us into innumerable messes, from (yes) sprawl development and the resulting wasteful use of land to near-total dependence on the car (or SUV/minivan/pickup), and the ever-increasing vulnerability of our economy and society (nationally, including Northfield) to spiralling petroleum product prices and possible future petroleum supply disruptions (and dare I say might have just a tad to do with our democratizing Iraq by force).
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<p>This is not just about the loss of 530 (or 440, or 335) acres of farm land in Greenvale Township. This is about sprawl development and continual loss of prime farmland every minute to development in the U.S. (see, for example, &#8220;<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9507E4D7163BF937A35753C1A9649C8B63" rel="nofollow">2 Farm Acres Lost per Minute, Study Says</a>&#8220;). (This has perhaps slowed down as a result of the housing market being in the doldrums, but it has been and remains a huge issue.) It&#8217;s about what Northfield values, and how we grow as a community. Just about every one of the community values embodied in the City Council-endorsed <a href="http://tesselar.net/blogs/nfldplan/archives/City%20Council%20Approved%20Northfield%20Principles%207-16-07%20.doc" rel="nofollow">Land Use Principles</a> would be compromised by the kind of development envisioned for the land included in this annexation request. Are the councilors bobos, or inattentive?&nbsp; They did endorse these principles, and they are our elected representatives.
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<p>While the actions of Northfield are inconsequential in the global sense, I do think we have a moral obligation to think globally and act locally (as much as you might care to deride such a principle).<br />
  Yes, by all means let&#8217;s create decent jobs locally and develop a sustainable (economically, environmentally and socially) community. Let&#8217;s do it in a better way than this annexation offers.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;You may disagree totally with any and all of these conclusions. That is your right, and I don&#8217;t care to (and will not) debate all of these issues ad nauseum here on Locally Grown. I have a life to get on with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The League Observes Local Government by Larry DeBoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry DeBoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question Ross.  It comes up every time controversial issues come before the boards and commissions, who are not elected, but supposedly have some citizen interest in the issue the commissions face.  But, as always, it is the responsibility of the ELECTED OFFICIALS to represent the wishes of the voting citizens.  As ELECTED Officials they are responsible for setting the agendas and providing priorities to the commissions.  The Council's final decisions are the ultimate test of whether my vote for that Councilor will continue.  

In Northfield Government, we have a defined city limit and only those who live within the city are eligeable to vote on any issues the city faces.  What I feel is happening in Northfield City Government is that anyone who comes before the Council and various Boards and Commissions with opinions and letters to the editor or various blogs on the internet are not required to state their voting jurisdication.  When many of those non-voters-in-Northfield "stuff the ballot box" with opinions for the Boards and Commissions - and the Boards and Commissions begin to take the opinions as authentic Northfield majority feelings, then the City Council has to step in and make the correct decisions based on the feelings of the electorate.  

While the opinions of the townships, Dundas, Lonsdale, Webster, Union Lake and Dennison might be useful to the Northfield Area Chamber of Commerce, they do not belong in the decision process for the Boards and Commissions - who also must be voting citizens of the Northfield City Limits.    

So, while the Boards and Commissions may offer some good suggestions to the Council, I want my elected Council to make decisions based on his or her electorate base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question Ross.  It comes up every time controversial issues come before the boards and commissions, who are not elected, but supposedly have some citizen interest in the issue the commissions face.  But, as always, it is the responsibility of the ELECTED OFFICIALS to represent the wishes of the voting citizens.  As ELECTED Officials they are responsible for setting the agendas and providing priorities to the commissions.  The Council&#8217;s final decisions are the ultimate test of whether my vote for that Councilor will continue.  </p>
<p>In Northfield Government, we have a defined city limit and only those who live within the city are eligeable to vote on any issues the city faces.  What I feel is happening in Northfield City Government is that anyone who comes before the Council and various Boards and Commissions with opinions and letters to the editor or various blogs on the internet are not required to state their voting jurisdication.  When many of those non-voters-in-Northfield &#8220;stuff the ballot box&#8221; with opinions for the Boards and Commissions - and the Boards and Commissions begin to take the opinions as authentic Northfield majority feelings, then the City Council has to step in and make the correct decisions based on the feelings of the electorate.  </p>
<p>While the opinions of the townships, Dundas, Lonsdale, Webster, Union Lake and Dennison might be useful to the Northfield Area Chamber of Commerce, they do not belong in the decision process for the Boards and Commissions - who also must be voting citizens of the Northfield City Limits.    </p>
<p>So, while the Boards and Commissions may offer some good suggestions to the Council, I want my elected Council to make decisions based on his or her electorate base.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roder&#8217;s a finalist for city admin job in Norfolk, Nebraska by kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3361/#comment-59713</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Britt: Tank you very much for your description of Norfolk, Nebraska... Do we need to keep watch for you in case some of the Norfolk vigilantes turn up in Northfield.

It is very difficult to try and discuss a city employee, or any person, with whom you have widely differing worldviews, in a public forum such as this.
But when it is an important employee of the city, one who has the capability to lead a "willing" council into ...well, I must admit I'd have to think longer about how I'd want to characterize that. 

The atmosphere in City Hall is so depressing; surely most people know someone with connections to employees that can verify this. It used to be a fun stop on your "small town" errands; the support staff are helpful and friendly. It made you feel good about where you live , just dropping off your water bill!

That's all very different now; the atmosphere is so changed,and no amount of physical renovation to the building will change it.

Anyone who has looked at Denison Iowa is criticized, as I think you did unfairly, in your comment above, Curt. No one was "digging up dirt", at least Victor and I were not; we were trying to evaluate the comments put forward in a book by a Pulitzer Prize winning author.  If you have no personal observations  of the behaviors at the council, toward citizens or the mayor; if you only know what you read in the paper, then you cannot even approach  a full circle of vision.  Just look at the wording re: the Goodhue county's investigations in the Roder article on the paper's website.
 
The employees at City hall, are by extension of principle, the community's employees. We are the community; we have a right, you might even say a responsibility, to evaluate the needs of the community, and the efficacy of the employees in filling those needs. 

I've been a municipal employee; if you don't like being in that sector the
n you should get into the private sector where your responsibility is NOT to the citizens of a community (Only to the morality of being a citizen of the world.)

I wish anyone well who hopes to live and work in a community that fits their values. I'm not so sure who would want to fit with Norfolk, Nebraska, as Britt describes it ... doesn't sound like home to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Britt: Tank you very much for your description of Norfolk, Nebraska&#8230; Do we need to keep watch for you in case some of the Norfolk vigilantes turn up in Northfield.</p>
<p>It is very difficult to try and discuss a city employee, or any person, with whom you have widely differing worldviews, in a public forum such as this.<br />
But when it is an important employee of the city, one who has the capability to lead a &#8220;willing&#8221; council into &#8230;well, I must admit I&#8217;d have to think longer about how I&#8217;d want to characterize that. </p>
<p>The atmosphere in City Hall is so depressing; surely most people know someone with connections to employees that can verify this. It used to be a fun stop on your &#8220;small town&#8221; errands; the support staff are helpful and friendly. It made you feel good about where you live , just dropping off your water bill!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all very different now; the atmosphere is so changed,and no amount of physical renovation to the building will change it.</p>
<p>Anyone who has looked at Denison Iowa is criticized, as I think you did unfairly, in your comment above, Curt. No one was &#8220;digging up dirt&#8221;, at least Victor and I were not; we were trying to evaluate the comments put forward in a book by a Pulitzer Prize winning author.  If you have no personal observations  of the behaviors at the council, toward citizens or the mayor; if you only know what you read in the paper, then you cannot even approach  a full circle of vision.  Just look at the wording re: the Goodhue county&#8217;s investigations in the Roder article on the paper&#8217;s website.</p>
<p>The employees at City hall, are by extension of principle, the community&#8217;s employees. We are the community; we have a right, you might even say a responsibility, to evaluate the needs of the community, and the efficacy of the employees in filling those needs. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a municipal employee; if you don&#8217;t like being in that sector the<br />
n you should get into the private sector where your responsibility is NOT to the citizens of a community (Only to the morality of being a citizen of the world.)</p>
<p>I wish anyone well who hopes to live and work in a community that fits their values. I&#8217;m not so sure who would want to fit with Norfolk, Nebraska, as Britt describes it &#8230; doesn&#8217;t sound like home to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roder&#8217;s a finalist for city admin job in Norfolk, Nebraska by David Koenig</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3361/#comment-59712</link>
		<dc:creator>David Koenig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Governance is a tricky issue. In fact, over the past ten years or so, at least twenty or more documents have been issued by various international bodies trying to define "good governance". 

Back in 2004, I had the opportunity to work with an esteemed "Blue Ribbon Panel" of risk management and governance professionals who went through existing governance documents and gleaned seven common principles that were common those documents. I cited one of them above (Clear Accountability).

To address one question above, professional adminstration plays a highly important role in a sound governance framework. In fact, the first of the seven common governance principles is that an organization must have a Sufficiency of Key Competencies.

In short, this means that the organization needs to have the technically, and administratively, talented people in place to carry out the realization of the organization's vision. 

Because the composition of the Council and the Mayor will change with regularity, you can't expect these technical skills to be present with consistency among the elected officials. So, in a government, you employ such talents on staff. In business, the parallel is the essential hand-off from the Board of Directors and those who run the company. But, in the case of government, it is the hand-off from the Mayor/Council to the staff, who are led by an Administrator.

This is the part that gets tricky. For all to work well, you need a Mayor who can establish a vision, with effective advice and consent, or lack of override, from the Council, that the staff then works to realize. You need an Administrator that understands that their job is to organize and manage staff to achieve those goals, not to set different goals.

Perhaps not surprisingly, the number two common governance principle identified by the group I mentioned above is that the organization must also have Sufficiency of Resources and Process. 

In short, this means that an organization's budget needs to provide sufficient funding, technology, staffing, etc. and its operations need to provide sufficient process (gathering feedback, checks and balances, review) to enable it to achieve the organization's vision. It's fine to have a great vision, but if you don't have the money or the talent to realize it, the effort bound to disappoint.

None of these three principles clearly argue for a Strong Mayor over a Manager. At this point, though, I would like to keep my comments focused on what elements need to be in place for "good governance" to be possible. Three of those are discussed above. I still promise to elaborate further, later, on why I think that the Strong Mayor is preferred to the City Manager in this model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governance is a tricky issue. In fact, over the past ten years or so, at least twenty or more documents have been issued by various international bodies trying to define &#8220;good governance&#8221;. </p>
<p>Back in 2004, I had the opportunity to work with an esteemed &#8220;Blue Ribbon Panel&#8221; of risk management and governance professionals who went through existing governance documents and gleaned seven common principles that were common those documents. I cited one of them above (Clear Accountability).</p>
<p>To address one question above, professional adminstration plays a highly important role in a sound governance framework. In fact, the first of the seven common governance principles is that an organization must have a Sufficiency of Key Competencies.</p>
<p>In short, this means that the organization needs to have the technically, and administratively, talented people in place to carry out the realization of the organization&#8217;s vision. </p>
<p>Because the composition of the Council and the Mayor will change with regularity, you can&#8217;t expect these technical skills to be present with consistency among the elected officials. So, in a government, you employ such talents on staff. In business, the parallel is the essential hand-off from the Board of Directors and those who run the company. But, in the case of government, it is the hand-off from the Mayor/Council to the staff, who are led by an Administrator.</p>
<p>This is the part that gets tricky. For all to work well, you need a Mayor who can establish a vision, with effective advice and consent, or lack of override, from the Council, that the staff then works to realize. You need an Administrator that understands that their job is to organize and manage staff to achieve those goals, not to set different goals.</p>
<p>Perhaps not surprisingly, the number two common governance principle identified by the group I mentioned above is that the organization must also have Sufficiency of Resources and Process. </p>
<p>In short, this means that an organization&#8217;s budget needs to provide sufficient funding, technology, staffing, etc. and its operations need to provide sufficient process (gathering feedback, checks and balances, review) to enable it to achieve the organization&#8217;s vision. It&#8217;s fine to have a great vision, but if you don&#8217;t have the money or the talent to realize it, the effort bound to disappoint.</p>
<p>None of these three principles clearly argue for a Strong Mayor over a Manager. At this point, though, I would like to keep my comments focused on what elements need to be in place for &#8220;good governance&#8221; to be possible. Three of those are discussed above. I still promise to elaborate further, later, on why I think that the Strong Mayor is preferred to the City Manager in this model.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We need a high quality sex shop in downtown Northfield by kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3359/#comment-59711</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griff:   Fluff or not ...I can't have a sex shop in my building... I'm  not encouraging visitations by council members!

And right across the river from the Key? our zoning is bad, but not THAT bad!

Please take me off the list... Thank you very much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griff:   Fluff or not &#8230;I can&#8217;t have a sex shop in my building&#8230; I&#8217;m  not encouraging visitations by council members!</p>
<p>And right across the river from the Key? our zoning is bad, but not THAT bad!</p>
<p>Please take me off the list&#8230; Thank you very much!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on Annexation in the Northwest by kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3304/#comment-59710</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy: Why do you think "Northfield would be in a better position to maintain a greenbelt than Greenvale  Twp would be"?

Why do you feel that if, as Ron G. says, the Land use Chapter of the New Comp Plan "is totally inadequate to deal with these needs" (sic) ?

I would feel a lot better if one of the Plan commissioners would ask Mr. O'Connell about the conflicting issues of old/new compplan... the council has said that the owners of the land must say that any development would comply with the NEW plan; Mr. O'Connelll said most emphatically it is being done under the OLD plan.  

Sounds like a conflict to me ...

Will Mr. O'Connell tell the  council that they cannot "deal" with the NEW plan, as it is happening under the OLD plan; he did not do that at the meeting last July when the council agreed to look at this under their specific limiting language that they attached to the motion.

Too many conflicting "facts"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy: Why do you think &#8220;Northfield would be in a better position to maintain a greenbelt than Greenvale  Twp would be&#8221;?</p>
<p>Why do you feel that if, as Ron G. says, the Land use Chapter of the New Comp Plan &#8220;is totally inadequate to deal with these needs&#8221; (sic) ?</p>
<p>I would feel a lot better if one of the Plan commissioners would ask Mr. O&#8217;Connell about the conflicting issues of old/new compplan&#8230; the council has said that the owners of the land must say that any development would comply with the NEW plan; Mr. O&#8217;Connelll said most emphatically it is being done under the OLD plan.  </p>
<p>Sounds like a conflict to me &#8230;</p>
<p>Will Mr. O&#8217;Connell tell the  council that they cannot &#8220;deal&#8221; with the NEW plan, as it is happening under the OLD plan; he did not do that at the meeting last July when the council agreed to look at this under their specific limiting language that they attached to the motion.</p>
<p>Too many conflicting &#8220;facts&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on Annexation in the Northwest by Tracy Davis</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3304/#comment-59707</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the &lt;a href='http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mndot-letter-re-annexation.pdf' rel="nofollow"&gt;Letter from MNDoT&lt;/a&gt; dated 4/29/08 and the  &lt;a href='http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/response-to-mndot-4-6-08.pdf' rel="nofollow"&gt;Response from the City engineer&lt;/a&gt; dated 5/6/08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the <a href='http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mndot-letter-re-annexation.pdf' rel="nofollow">Letter from MNDoT</a> dated 4/29/08 and the  <a href='http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/response-to-mndot-4-6-08.pdf' rel="nofollow">Response from the City engineer</a> dated 5/6/08.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We need a high quality sex shop in downtown Northfield by Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3359/#comment-59705</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; Oh, oh. Two "Colleens" now participating, one the owner of a senior condo development, the other the owner of a chain of sex shops. How am I going to keep them straight?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Colleen HP, I sure hope Rick Estenson, pres. of the EDA, is paying attention to this thread. Having just done the Full Monty routine (&lt;a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/northfieldminn/GirlsNightOut2008/photo#5198611238514546386" rel="nofollow"&gt;photo here&lt;/a&gt;) with me and Ross, one would think so.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Colleen B, I'm delighted to have the owner of &lt;a href="https://www.fantasygifts.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fantasy Gifts&lt;/a&gt; here. The Northfield Chamber has a web page of &lt;a href="http://www.northfieldchamber.com/business/businesssites.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;business sites available&lt;/a&gt;. Two that I'm aware of downtown:
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  &lt;li&gt;Victor and Kiffi Summa own a building in the heart of downtown between 3rd and 4th on Division. Carleton College has a bookstore in one of their retail spaces called &lt;a href="http://rivercity.booksense.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp" rel="nofollow"&gt;River City Books&lt;/a&gt;. The other is empty/available.&lt;/li&gt;
  &lt;li&gt;The &lt;a href="http://northfieldhistory.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Northfield Historical Society&lt;/a&gt; just lost a retail space tennant in their building, right on Bridge Square. Contact Exec. Director Hayes Scriven.
  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Oh, oh. Two &#8220;Colleens&#8221; now participating, one the owner of a senior condo development, the other the owner of a chain of sex shops. How am I going to keep them straight?
</p>
<p>Colleen HP, I sure hope Rick Estenson, pres. of the EDA, is paying attention to this thread. Having just done the Full Monty routine (<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/northfieldminn/GirlsNightOut2008/photo#5198611238514546386" rel="nofollow">photo here</a>) with me and Ross, one would think so.
</p>
<p>Colleen B, I&#8217;m delighted to have the owner of <a href="https://www.fantasygifts.com/" rel="nofollow">Fantasy Gifts</a> here. The Northfield Chamber has a web page of <a href="http://www.northfieldchamber.com/business/businesssites.html" rel="nofollow">business sites available</a>. Two that I&#8217;m aware of downtown:
</p>
<ul>
<li>Victor and Kiffi Summa own a building in the heart of downtown between 3rd and 4th on Division. Carleton College has a bookstore in one of their retail spaces called <a href="http://rivercity.booksense.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp" rel="nofollow">River City Books</a>. The other is empty/available.</li>
<li>The <a href="http://northfieldhistory.org/" rel="nofollow">Northfield Historical Society</a> just lost a retail space tennant in their building, right on Bridge Square. Contact Exec. Director Hayes Scriven.<br />
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		<title>Comment on We need a high quality sex shop in downtown Northfield by Colleen Bertino</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3359/#comment-59704</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen Bertino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If  owner of a building has a space for me. I'll consider a store. I have plenty of customers in the area.  I love Northfield several of my friends went to school there and always had fun when I visited them!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If  owner of a building has a space for me. I&#8217;ll consider a store. I have plenty of customers in the area.  I love Northfield several of my friends went to school there and always had fun when I visited them!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Final Course Cafe to open now open in The Crossing Business Center by Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/2784/#comment-59703</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a sign in the window of the Final Course Cafe: "Closed till further notice. Please accept our apologies. Dean, Rose."  Anyone know what's going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a sign in the window of the Final Course Cafe: &#8220;Closed till further notice. Please accept our apologies. Dean, Rose.&#8221;  Anyone know what&#8217;s going on?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bridge Square fountain gets some spiffing up by Hayes Scriven</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3360/#comment-59702</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayes Scriven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd be willing to let the city put a camera in one of my windows over night to watch the fountaine, if that would help fix the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be willing to let the city put a camera in one of my windows over night to watch the fountaine, if that would help fix the problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roder&#8217;s a finalist for city admin job in Norfolk, Nebraska by David Henson</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3361/#comment-59701</link>
		<dc:creator>David Henson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcea - I think that "strong mayor" basically means a full time or near full time "paid mayor." I assume the police chief would report to the mayor and 2 or 3 city employees. One of those employees would likely take on some of the roles of the current administrator. Since Northfield is Home Rule, I would think "strong mayor" could mean whatever a ballet initiative defined as the role. I understand the Northfield City Administrator makes about $110,000 so if he shows up with a mayor making $7000 who gets seen as the voice of Northfield ? Personally, I think it is silly to invest in an individual that is going to split for career advancement and has no long term interest in the community. The idea that they will run the city better when $4 million is missing - well that's tough ground for a garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcea - I think that &#8220;strong mayor&#8221; basically means a full time or near full time &#8220;paid mayor.&#8221; I assume the police chief would report to the mayor and 2 or 3 city employees. One of those employees would likely take on some of the roles of the current administrator. Since Northfield is Home Rule, I would think &#8220;strong mayor&#8221; could mean whatever a ballet initiative defined as the role. I understand the Northfield City Administrator makes about $110,000 so if he shows up with a mayor making $7000 who gets seen as the voice of Northfield ? Personally, I think it is silly to invest in an individual that is going to split for career advancement and has no long term interest in the community. The idea that they will run the city better when $4 million is missing - well that&#8217;s tough ground for a garden.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roder&#8217;s a finalist for city admin job in Norfolk, Nebraska by Curt Benson</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3361/#comment-59700</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Britt, what a depressing picture you paint.

In the interest of walking a mile in Mr. Roder's shoes, how do you think he would describe his experiences in Northfield?

I don't know Mr. Roder.  I claim no special knowledge in the controversies surrounding Mr. Roder.  But I've heard the rumors about his alleged misdeeds.  I'm guessing we've all heard the rumors.    He is the apparent subject of an investigation by the impossibly glacial Goodhue County Attorney.  He's had citizens from Northfield travel to the last place he was employed trying to dig up  any kind of dirt they could on him.    I'm thinking the feeling in Northfield is that Mr. Roder must be guilty of something, if only they could come up with something.

I'm guessing that if Mr. Roder wrote about Northfield from his perspective, it would be just as depressing as Britt's description of Norfolk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Britt, what a depressing picture you paint.</p>
<p>In the interest of walking a mile in Mr. Roder&#8217;s shoes, how do you think he would describe his experiences in Northfield?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know Mr. Roder.  I claim no special knowledge in the controversies surrounding Mr. Roder.  But I&#8217;ve heard the rumors about his alleged misdeeds.  I&#8217;m guessing we&#8217;ve all heard the rumors.    He is the apparent subject of an investigation by the impossibly glacial Goodhue County Attorney.  He&#8217;s had citizens from Northfield travel to the last place he was employed trying to dig up  any kind of dirt they could on him.    I&#8217;m thinking the feeling in Northfield is that Mr. Roder must be guilty of something, if only they could come up with something.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing that if Mr. Roder wrote about Northfield from his perspective, it would be just as depressing as Britt&#8217;s description of Norfolk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bridge Square fountain gets some spiffing up by John S. Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>John S. Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Ross's &lt;a HREF="http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1402/#comment-17973" rel="nofollow"&gt;post&lt;/a&gt;, it costs about $3000 to $4000 every time this occurs.

If that amount is correct, you would think that the city would put in preventative measures, such as a security camera.

How about a Wireless WI-FI camera...oh yea, wait, no city wide wi-fi yet... nevermind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Ross&#8217;s <a HREF="http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/1402/#comment-17973" rel="nofollow">post</a>, it costs about $3000 to $4000 every time this occurs.</p>
<p>If that amount is correct, you would think that the city would put in preventative measures, such as a security camera.</p>
<p>How about a Wireless WI-FI camera&#8230;oh yea, wait, no city wide wi-fi yet&#8230; nevermind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We need a high quality sex shop in downtown Northfield by Brendon Etter</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3359/#comment-59698</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon Etter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colleen,

A "high quality sex shop" really keeps the customers coming, and they still respect themselves when they get the credit card statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colleen,</p>
<p>A &#8220;high quality sex shop&#8221; really keeps the customers coming, and they still respect themselves when they get the credit card statement.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Bridge Square fountain gets some spiffing up by John S. Thomas</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/3360/#comment-59697</link>
		<dc:creator>John S. Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can't be serious...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t be serious&#8230;</p>
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