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		<title>By: Annexation and the township &#8230; 13 Jun 2010 &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annexation and the township &#8230; 13 Jun 2010 &#171; Contented Cow&#8217;s Politics and a Pint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Proposed West Armstrong Industrial Park (Locally Grown) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Spring Brook treasure photographed; good timing &#171; Locally Grown Northfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Spring Brook treasure photographed; good timing &#171; Locally Grown Northfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I first blogged about the proposed park last July (it was then generally referred to as the West Armstrong Business Park), I wrote that the proposed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Henriksen</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-101374</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Henriksen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminder:
Tuesday April 13, is the long-awaited Northfield Council work session with Waterford Township, I believe. That should be interesting.

Second Tuesday would ordinarily be a conflict w/Bridgewater Township monthly meeting. However, Clerk Janalee Cooper reminds me that Bridgewater has changed its monthly meeting to second Wednesday.  All in all, it will be a busy week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminder:<br />
Tuesday April 13, is the long-awaited Northfield Council work session with Waterford Township, I believe. That should be interesting.</p>
<p>Second Tuesday would ordinarily be a conflict w/Bridgewater Township monthly meeting. However, Clerk Janalee Cooper reminds me that Bridgewater has changed its monthly meeting to second Wednesday.  All in all, it will be a busy week.</p>
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		<title>By: kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-101140</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Griff: I searched for an annexation thread on which to make this comment, so feel free to move it around to your best &#039;use&#039;...

At last night&#039;s council meeting , item#9 on the regular agenda was a motion to &quot;Approve Annexation Policy Positions&quot;. 

Brian O&#039;Connell presented the issue to the council , telling them that this was an effort to present  &quot;... documented thought re: what the city thinks its position is...&quot; and  he went on to explain that he had prepared this document from his notes of the Council&#039;s work session on annexation. He asked, &quot;Does this document accurately reflect what we talked about that night?&quot;

This was a fascinating discussion for any small town politicos or policy wonks.

The council&#039;s new City Attorney, Chris Hood, began by saying that  there are lots of contingencies or specific circumstances (re: annexations), and that there was a need to reserve discretion to remain flexible. 
He then said he did not see a need for a &#039;policy&#039;, and recommended that each annexation be looked at with specificity. 

Mayor Rossing asked if there was a need for such a policy now. Attny. Hood replied that he felt that it was better to reply on &quot;broader principles&quot; as a base.  ( I assume he meant Comprehensive Plan, etc.)

Councilor Denison asked for comparisons with other cities; Mr, Hood replied that TYPICALLY such policies are NOT seen in other cities, and that maybe those other cities were not as &quot;process oriented &quot; as  NF; the desire for a policy maybe being an outgrowth of that &quot;process oriented&quot; characteristic, but reiterated again, no, typically NOT seen. 

Councilor Buckheit  could see a value as to establishing a baseline for policy decisions, recognizing the guidance of the Comp. Plan.
Councilor Zweifel felt a matrix format would be more  useful as an evaluation tool.
Mayor Rossing emphasized that it was good to have a policy document that expressed the COUNCIL&#039;S policy( i.e. speaking in a unified voice).
Councilor Pokorney made a good point that the current  issues of Waterford and Bridgewater should not be a part of this document; it should be &quot;general&quot;.  He wanted to be sure this was not seen as &quot;staff driven&quot;, saying &quot;we (council) spent over an hour ( i think he meant at their work session) discussing this subject&quot;.

Attny Hood reminded all that in the end, annexation is largely guided by MN statutes, and the vote was unanimous to pursue a policy document.

A  fascinating discussion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griff: I searched for an annexation thread on which to make this comment, so feel free to move it around to your best &#8216;use&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>At last night&#8217;s council meeting , item#9 on the regular agenda was a motion to &#8220;Approve Annexation Policy Positions&#8221;. </p>
<p>Brian O&#8217;Connell presented the issue to the council , telling them that this was an effort to present  &#8220;&#8230; documented thought re: what the city thinks its position is&#8230;&#8221; and  he went on to explain that he had prepared this document from his notes of the Council&#8217;s work session on annexation. He asked, &#8220;Does this document accurately reflect what we talked about that night?&#8221;</p>
<p>This was a fascinating discussion for any small town politicos or policy wonks.</p>
<p>The council&#8217;s new City Attorney, Chris Hood, began by saying that  there are lots of contingencies or specific circumstances (re: annexations), and that there was a need to reserve discretion to remain flexible.<br />
He then said he did not see a need for a &#8216;policy&#8217;, and recommended that each annexation be looked at with specificity. </p>
<p>Mayor Rossing asked if there was a need for such a policy now. Attny. Hood replied that he felt that it was better to reply on &#8220;broader principles&#8221; as a base.  ( I assume he meant Comprehensive Plan, etc.)</p>
<p>Councilor Denison asked for comparisons with other cities; Mr, Hood replied that TYPICALLY such policies are NOT seen in other cities, and that maybe those other cities were not as &#8220;process oriented &#8221; as  NF; the desire for a policy maybe being an outgrowth of that &#8220;process oriented&#8221; characteristic, but reiterated again, no, typically NOT seen. </p>
<p>Councilor Buckheit  could see a value as to establishing a baseline for policy decisions, recognizing the guidance of the Comp. Plan.<br />
Councilor Zweifel felt a matrix format would be more  useful as an evaluation tool.<br />
Mayor Rossing emphasized that it was good to have a policy document that expressed the COUNCIL&#8217;S policy( i.e. speaking in a unified voice).<br />
Councilor Pokorney made a good point that the current  issues of Waterford and Bridgewater should not be a part of this document; it should be &#8220;general&#8221;.  He wanted to be sure this was not seen as &#8220;staff driven&#8221;, saying &#8220;we (council) spent over an hour ( i think he meant at their work session) discussing this subject&#8221;.</p>
<p>Attny Hood reminded all that in the end, annexation is largely guided by MN statutes, and the vote was unanimous to pursue a policy document.</p>
<p>A  fascinating discussion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Henriksen</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-97608</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Henriksen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Kiffi, you are right on both points. 

I posted a comment on Tracy&#039;s blog yesterday, that I will summarize here. 

I was disappointed at the 5-1  Planning Commission vote recommending the annexation on Jan. 7.  If Ron Griffith and Ross Currier had been on the Commission, I dare say things would have turned out differently.  And, if the violation of open meeting law had come to light earlier, more PC members might have been hesitant to rubber stamp the staff recommendation.

The Council vote Feb. 9 was just as disappointing.  Buckheit did object to the materials in the packet as more propaganda than fact, but then voted to give preliminary approval anyway. Jon Denison made the motion and Rhonda Pownell seconded it, as has become the routine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Kiffi, you are right on both points. </p>
<p>I posted a comment on Tracy&#8217;s blog yesterday, that I will summarize here. </p>
<p>I was disappointed at the 5-1  Planning Commission vote recommending the annexation on Jan. 7.  If Ron Griffith and Ross Currier had been on the Commission, I dare say things would have turned out differently.  And, if the violation of open meeting law had come to light earlier, more PC members might have been hesitant to rubber stamp the staff recommendation.</p>
<p>The Council vote Feb. 9 was just as disappointing.  Buckheit did object to the materials in the packet as more propaganda than fact, but then voted to give preliminary approval anyway. Jon Denison made the motion and Rhonda Pownell seconded it, as has become the routine.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiffi Summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-97585</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiffi Summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the council wanted to facilitate the process of annexation discussion with Bridgewater, the city could work on the relevant part of the stream protection ordinance first, get that part out of the way, and reassure the Bridgewater people that the creeks will be protected. (assuming that the ordinance is stringent enough).

That would be a &#039;good faith&#039; action that might satisfy at least one part of this process.

Then, of course, there is the issue of the fact that  part of this annexation area is not within the boundaries of the current annexation agreement.

Dealing favorably for all parties with those two issues might move the entire process along...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the council wanted to facilitate the process of annexation discussion with Bridgewater, the city could work on the relevant part of the stream protection ordinance first, get that part out of the way, and reassure the Bridgewater people that the creeks will be protected. (assuming that the ordinance is stringent enough).</p>
<p>That would be a &#8216;good faith&#8217; action that might satisfy at least one part of this process.</p>
<p>Then, of course, there is the issue of the fact that  part of this annexation area is not within the boundaries of the current annexation agreement.</p>
<p>Dealing favorably for all parties with those two issues might move the entire process along&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Davis</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-97214</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Planning Commission&#039;s recommendation to the City Council on the annexation request from Bridgewater property owners is on the agenda for the 2/9 City Council meeting. I blogged the PC&#039;s recommendation &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.citycommons.net/?p=392&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;
.-= (Tracy Davis is a blogger. See a recent post titled &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.citycommons.net/?p=392&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Recommendation on Bridgewater annexation request&lt;/a&gt;) =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Planning Commission&#8217;s recommendation to the City Council on the annexation request from Bridgewater property owners is on the agenda for the 2/9 City Council meeting. I blogged the PC&#8217;s recommendation <a href="http://www.citycommons.net/?p=392" rel="nofollow">here.</a><br />
.-= (Tracy Davis is a blogger. See a recent post titled <a href="http://www.citycommons.net/?p=392" rel="nofollow">Recommendation on Bridgewater annexation request</a>) =-.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lower Heath Creek Bicycle Pedestrian Trail: coming soon to Bridgewater Township? &#171; Locally Grown Northfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lower Heath Creek Bicycle Pedestrian Trail: coming soon to Bridgewater Township? &#171; Locally Grown Northfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As the map below shows, the trail would loop around Heath Creek south of Old Dutch Road and north of Armstrong Road, adjacent to the Gill-Prawer property that’s currently in annexation negotiations for the development of the West Armstrong Business Park: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As the map below shows, the trail would loop around Heath Creek south of Old Dutch Road and north of Armstrong Road, adjacent to the Gill-Prawer property that’s currently in annexation negotiations for the development of the West Armstrong Business Park: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-94156</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using this annexation thread because I don&#039;t where the NW territories (Greenvale 530 acres) thread is at this point...

 Hoisington Koegler, the planning consultants that have been hired by the city to master plan the 530 Acres (and additionally the Prawer-Gill properties if that annexation goes ahead) is holding a design charette today and tomorrow , at the South main  building of the Community Resource Bank, and THERE IS A PUBLIC COMPONENT OF THE PROCESS  FROM 4-6 PM  EACH DAY.  The public portion is a &quot;pin-up session&quot; to gather input or reaction to the initial planning ideas.

There was virtually no promotion of the public part of this charette process although the consulting firm was clear about their intent for that to occur, and at this late time it is hoped that enough people will find out about it and become involved to benefit the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using this annexation thread because I don&#8217;t where the NW territories (Greenvale 530 acres) thread is at this point&#8230;</p>
<p> Hoisington Koegler, the planning consultants that have been hired by the city to master plan the 530 Acres (and additionally the Prawer-Gill properties if that annexation goes ahead) is holding a design charette today and tomorrow , at the South main  building of the Community Resource Bank, and THERE IS A PUBLIC COMPONENT OF THE PROCESS  FROM 4-6 PM  EACH DAY.  The public portion is a &#8220;pin-up session&#8221; to gather input or reaction to the initial planning ideas.</p>
<p>There was virtually no promotion of the public part of this charette process although the consulting firm was clear about their intent for that to occur, and at this late time it is hoped that enough people will find out about it and become involved to benefit the process.</p>
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		<title>By: kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-94131</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie raises a very strong question here... How will section V of the annexation agreement be addressed?

The flat out statement that has been made is that the  agreement will have to be re-negotiated. So what should the process be?

Should the annexation  be put on hold by the City/NF, until they have discussion with the Bridgewater supervisors? Should the B&#039;water supervisors have to poll their constitutents before they come to a conclusion with Northfield?

If  B&#039;water, et al, does not wish to acquiesce, should NF deny the request?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie raises a very strong question here&#8230; How will section V of the annexation agreement be addressed?</p>
<p>The flat out statement that has been made is that the  agreement will have to be re-negotiated. So what should the process be?</p>
<p>Should the annexation  be put on hold by the City/NF, until they have discussion with the Bridgewater supervisors? Should the B&#8217;water supervisors have to poll their constitutents before they come to a conclusion with Northfield?</p>
<p>If  B&#8217;water, et al, does not wish to acquiesce, should NF deny the request?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Henriksen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Henriksen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valuable information was presented at the hearing Nov. 24, but I have to say I was disappointed that groups like LWV and CRWP, calling for things to be &quot;done right&quot; but declaring themselves neither for nor against the annexation, seemed to set the tone for the evening. Individuals following them to the microphone with many questions and complaints, but did not go so far as  to say they were opposed.  

And so, we have Chair Tracy Davis on KYMN Saturday morning, saying that people had concerns but only one speaker was &quot;flat out&quot; opposed. I guess that was me.
 
To be clear, I accept annexation as a fact of life. The township and the City signed an agreement in 1999 which set the terms for annexations for the next 20 years. As Supervisor Kathleen Doran Norton said in her statement at the hearing, Sec. V  says the City will not request annexation except under terms of this agreement. This annexation is in violation of our agreement and I oppose it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valuable information was presented at the hearing Nov. 24, but I have to say I was disappointed that groups like LWV and CRWP, calling for things to be &#8220;done right&#8221; but declaring themselves neither for nor against the annexation, seemed to set the tone for the evening. Individuals following them to the microphone with many questions and complaints, but did not go so far as  to say they were opposed.  </p>
<p>And so, we have Chair Tracy Davis on KYMN Saturday morning, saying that people had concerns but only one speaker was &#8220;flat out&#8221; opposed. I guess that was me.</p>
<p>To be clear, I accept annexation as a fact of life. The township and the City signed an agreement in 1999 which set the terms for annexations for the next 20 years. As Supervisor Kathleen Doran Norton said in her statement at the hearing, Sec. V  says the City will not request annexation except under terms of this agreement. This annexation is in violation of our agreement and I oppose it.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s the Nfld News article on the hearing: &lt;a href=&quot;http://northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50617&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;50 attend hearing on Bridgewater annexation proposal.&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;The Northfield Planning Commission got an earful Tuesday night from farmers, fishermen, scientists and businessmen, all of whom were concerned about one thing: the potential annexation of land in Bridgewater Township.
    &lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;But despite a number of wide-ranging worries, some speakers at the commission’s packed public hearing over the proposed, 456-acre annexation west of the city expressed a little optimism about the project — if it is done right.
    &lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the Nfld News article on the hearing: <a href="http://northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50617" rel="nofollow">50 attend hearing on Bridgewater annexation proposal.</a>
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<p>The Northfield Planning Commission got an earful Tuesday night from farmers, fishermen, scientists and businessmen, all of whom were concerned about one thing: the potential annexation of land in Bridgewater Township.</p>
<p>But despite a number of wide-ranging worries, some speakers at the commission’s packed public hearing over the proposed, 456-acre annexation west of the city expressed a little optimism about the project — if it is done right.<br />
    
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		<title>By: Stephanie Henriksen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Henriksen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See NNews report of the hearing (p.3 of Wednesday paper). All three of my supervisors spoke. I was pleased that the Stream Protection report is available to the Planning Commission, however it is only a set of recommendations upon which to base an ordinance. Many thanks to Suzie Nakasian for pressing Brian O&#039;Connell about having an actual ordinance drawn up. He does not want the delay, obviously.

The committee that chose Flaherty &amp; Hood over Maren Swanson really knew what they were doing.  This firm has been doing work on annexation for Northfield for a couple years at least. They  posed the language for a bill carried by Sen. Bakk to put townships at even more of a disadvantage. We fought that bill all last session.

 The Winona Post report Griff provided gives just one example of Chris Hood&#039;s work.  I suppose this firm begins working for the City of Northfield Jan. 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See NNews report of the hearing (p.3 of Wednesday paper). All three of my supervisors spoke. I was pleased that the Stream Protection report is available to the Planning Commission, however it is only a set of recommendations upon which to base an ordinance. Many thanks to Suzie Nakasian for pressing Brian O&#8217;Connell about having an actual ordinance drawn up. He does not want the delay, obviously.</p>
<p>The committee that chose Flaherty &amp; Hood over Maren Swanson really knew what they were doing.  This firm has been doing work on annexation for Northfield for a couple years at least. They  posed the language for a bill carried by Sen. Bakk to put townships at even more of a disadvantage. We fought that bill all last session.</p>
<p> The Winona Post report Griff provided gives just one example of Chris Hood&#8217;s work.  I suppose this firm begins working for the City of Northfield Jan. 1.</p>
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		<title>By: kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-94026</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross:
 Council Chamber packed to overflowing.
Tracy did a GREAT job of handling Public Hearing; humane, which is what a PH should be.
Very informed and eloquent comments from many people.
Planning Commission seems to be tasked with only replying as to whether annexation  synchs with Comp Plan; this ...IMO... a new tactic being employed ostensibly to facilitate decision making (i.e. last weeks council decision process/packet layout on Safety Center) but in fact putting  THE BIG PICTURE somewhat outside the relevant comment area requested.

Here&#039;s the question:   Can the Planning Commission, a very principled  and thoughtful group, comment on the annexation  in a qualified manner which says their approval is based on the uses the land is eminently suited for and eventually put to over the next 10-50 years, and even beyond?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross:<br />
 Council Chamber packed to overflowing.<br />
Tracy did a GREAT job of handling Public Hearing; humane, which is what a PH should be.<br />
Very informed and eloquent comments from many people.<br />
Planning Commission seems to be tasked with only replying as to whether annexation  synchs with Comp Plan; this &#8230;IMO&#8230; a new tactic being employed ostensibly to facilitate decision making (i.e. last weeks council decision process/packet layout on Safety Center) but in fact putting  THE BIG PICTURE somewhat outside the relevant comment area requested.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the question:   Can the Planning Commission, a very principled  and thoughtful group, comment on the annexation  in a qualified manner which says their approval is based on the uses the land is eminently suited for and eventually put to over the next 10-50 years, and even beyond?</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Currier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Currier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what happened at the Planning Commission-hosted Public Hearing last night?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what happened at the Planning Commission-hosted Public Hearing last night?</p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93957</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kiffi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That 12/26/2004 article is here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.winonapost.com/stock/functions/VDG_Pub/searchdetail.php?Page_next_page=&amp;choice=7549&amp;searchtext=wilson+&amp;from=&amp;to=&amp;author=&amp;column=&amp;issue=3&amp;sort=score&amp;arrange=DESC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;City wants closed-door meeting with Wilson Township officials&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiffi,</p>
<p>That 12/26/2004 article is here: <a href="http://www.winonapost.com/stock/functions/VDG_Pub/searchdetail.php?Page_next_page=&amp;choice=7549&amp;searchtext=wilson+&amp;from=&amp;to=&amp;author=&amp;column=&amp;issue=3&amp;sort=score&amp;arrange=DESC" rel="nofollow">City wants closed-door meeting with Wilson Township officials</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93952</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;An e-mail circulating is asking people to look at an article in today&#039;s (11.23.09)  Winona Post newspaper. The article is entitled: City Wants Closed Door Meetings with Wilson Twp. Officials&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The relevance here is that the attny for the city who is requesting a closed door meeting is Chris Hood, the newly selected candidate for NF City Attorney. An attorney must work for their client; that is their obligation; the question here is should that obligation go against recognized state law?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The recognized authority on open meeting law, Mark Anfinson, says in the article that he finds it ludicrous that this would even be suggested in this instance, as it is  so clearly inappropriate in the law...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can I get Shakespearean ? , and say &quot;oh, what tangled webs we weave&quot;...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An e-mail circulating is asking people to look at an article in today&#8217;s (11.23.09)  Winona Post newspaper. The article is entitled: City Wants Closed Door Meetings with Wilson Twp. Officials&#8221;.</p>
<p>The relevance here is that the attny for the city who is requesting a closed door meeting is Chris Hood, the newly selected candidate for NF City Attorney. An attorney must work for their client; that is their obligation; the question here is should that obligation go against recognized state law?</p>
<p>The recognized authority on open meeting law, Mark Anfinson, says in the article that he finds it ludicrous that this would even be suggested in this instance, as it is  so clearly inappropriate in the law&#8230;</p>
<p>Can I get Shakespearean ? , and say &#8220;oh, what tangled webs we weave&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Enders</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93948</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Enders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Suzy has graciously posted the Citizens&#039; Group report on the News site:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.northfieldnews.com/photos/ricecrkrec_13nov09.pdf&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;linked to from:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50585&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzy has graciously posted the Citizens&#8217; Group report on the News site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.northfieldnews.com/photos/ricecrkrec_13nov09.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.northfieldnews.com/photos/ricecrkrec_13nov09.pdf</a></p>
<p>linked to from:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50585" rel="nofollow">http://www.northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50585</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Enders</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93934</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Enders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, the unsolicited ‘Rice Creek (Spring Brook) Concerned Citizens Group’ report is not included in this PDF. The citizens group authors include Paul Jackson, chair of the Environmental Studies Department at St. Olaf College.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any chance of finding this report posted online for our perusal?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the unsolicited ‘Rice Creek (Spring Brook) Concerned Citizens Group’ report is not included in this PDF. The citizens group authors include Paul Jackson, chair of the Environmental Studies Department at St. Olaf College.</p>
<p>Any chance of finding this report posted online for our perusal?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Enders</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93933</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Enders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The EDA’s letter endorsing the annexation is on page 47 of the packet you linked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Park and Recreation Advisory Board letter is on pages 48-49.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Environmental Quality Commission recommendations are on pages 50-52.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EDA’s letter endorsing the annexation is on page 47 of the packet you linked.</p>
<p>The Park and Recreation Advisory Board letter is on pages 48-49.</p>
<p>The Environmental Quality Commission recommendations are on pages 50-52.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93932</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reminder:  the Northfield Planning Commission is hosting a public hearing on  Tuesday, 7 pm at City Hall re: the Gill-Prawer annexation request. Agenda and packet &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ci.northfield.mn.us/meetings/pczba/2009/11/24/planning_commission_meeting109&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminder:  the Northfield Planning Commission is hosting a public hearing on  Tuesday, 7 pm at City Hall re: the Gill-Prawer annexation request. Agenda and packet <a href="http://www.ci.northfield.mn.us/meetings/pczba/2009/11/24/planning_commission_meeting109" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93929</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sat. Nfld News: &lt;a href=&quot;http://northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50585&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Weighing the options on a second annexatio&lt;/a&gt;n.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;At its meeting on Sept. 14, the Northfield City Council asked three of its boards and commissions to weigh in on the proposed annexation of 456 acres of land in Bridgewater Township owned by Kenneth Prawer and Robert Gill. This week, the city got its answers — from a few expected sources, and at least one unexpected one. The information the boards returned to the council will be reviewed at the Planning Commission’s meeting Tuesday.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sat. Nfld News: <a href="http://northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50585" rel="nofollow">Weighing the options on a second annexatio</a>n.</p>
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<p>At its meeting on Sept. 14, the Northfield City Council asked three of its boards and commissions to weigh in on the proposed annexation of 456 acres of land in Bridgewater Township owned by Kenneth Prawer and Robert Gill. This week, the city got its answers — from a few expected sources, and at least one unexpected one. The information the boards returned to the council will be reviewed at the Planning Commission’s meeting Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93829</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Posted to the Nfld News today at 5 pm: &lt;a href=&quot;http://northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50549&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EDA backs annexation proposal&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The recommendation, which passed 4-2 at the EDA’s regular meeting, will be sent to the council for consideration.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Board member Victor Summa and EDA Vice President Steve Engler both voted against the measure, saying that the board did not have adequate time to review the information presented to the board by city staff and ask questions. “I wasn’t voting against the proposal, I was voting against the process,” Engler said after the meeting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted to the Nfld News today at 5 pm: <a href="http://northfieldnews.com/news.php?viewStory=50549" rel="nofollow">EDA backs annexation proposal</a>.</p>
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<p>The recommendation, which passed 4-2 at the EDA’s regular meeting, will be sent to the council for consideration.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Board member Victor Summa and EDA Vice President Steve Engler both voted against the measure, saying that the board did not have adequate time to review the information presented to the board by city staff and ask questions. “I wasn’t voting against the proposal, I was voting against the process,” Engler said after the meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Henriksen</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93775</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Henriksen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kiffy, the Planning Commission certainly did not set the date of this hearing to suit their comfort level. The date was dumped on them at their meeting of Nov. 10.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SEQUENCE: A NNews reporter told me on about Nov. 5 that there was a public hearing on Gill/Prawer set for Nov. 24. I checked with some Planning Commission members who knew nothing of this and did not believe such a date had been set. I then asked Joel Walinski about this after our stream protection meeting at St. Olaf on Friday, Nov. 6. He checked his calendar and confirmed the date.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dan Olson confirmed the date when members of the Planning Commission asked him about it at their meeting Nov. 10.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Planning Commission had no materials to go on at that time. If they had been able to move it to a later date they really should have, given the problem of timing it for 2 days before Thanksgiving. There was one public notice (last Saturday paper) and evidently staff thinks they have handled it correctly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See you the night of Nov. 24, I hope.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiffy, the Planning Commission certainly did not set the date of this hearing to suit their comfort level. The date was dumped on them at their meeting of Nov. 10.</p>
<p>SEQUENCE: A NNews reporter told me on about Nov. 5 that there was a public hearing on Gill/Prawer set for Nov. 24. I checked with some Planning Commission members who knew nothing of this and did not believe such a date had been set. I then asked Joel Walinski about this after our stream protection meeting at St. Olaf on Friday, Nov. 6. He checked his calendar and confirmed the date.</p>
<p>Dan Olson confirmed the date when members of the Planning Commission asked him about it at their meeting Nov. 10.</p>
<p>The Planning Commission had no materials to go on at that time. If they had been able to move it to a later date they really should have, given the problem of timing it for 2 days before Thanksgiving. There was one public notice (last Saturday paper) and evidently staff thinks they have handled it correctly.</p>
<p>See you the night of Nov. 24, I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: kiffi summa</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/11656/comment-page-2/#comment-93542</link>
		<dc:creator>kiffi summa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stephanie: It is my impression that since the Planning Commission is  the responsible entity to hold the Public Hearing, not the Council, they can schedule it to suit their comfort level (as far as time to go over their study materials for same).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that &lt;strong&gt;would &lt;/strong&gt; be considered a big revolt, but I think it would be correct for them to do so, after all the Public Hearing is theirs to conduct and they should feel in command of the pertinent materials.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After all the extreme discontent with the Land Development Code, I think they&#039;re in a &#039;testy&#039; mood anyway, they&#039;ve been having extra meetings for months.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just a heads up: the first meeting of the Consultant Group Steering Committee and the EDA, on the &quot;Northwest Territories&quot; annexation  (530 Ac. in Greenvale) is from 6-8 PM tonight, Council Chambers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie: It is my impression that since the Planning Commission is  the responsible entity to hold the Public Hearing, not the Council, they can schedule it to suit their comfort level (as far as time to go over their study materials for same).</p>
<p>Now that <strong>would </strong> be considered a big revolt, but I think it would be correct for them to do so, after all the Public Hearing is theirs to conduct and they should feel in command of the pertinent materials.</p>
<p>After all the extreme discontent with the Land Development Code, I think they&#8217;re in a &#8216;testy&#8217; mood anyway, they&#8217;ve been having extra meetings for months.</p>
<p>Just a heads up: the first meeting of the Consultant Group Steering Committee and the EDA, on the &#8220;Northwest Territories&#8221; annexation  (530 Ac. in Greenvale) is from 6-8 PM tonight, Council Chambers.</p>
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