Comments on: Sidewalk dining downtown: why has it failed thus far? http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/13566/ The people, issues, and events of Northfield, MN Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:26:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kiffi summa http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/13566/comment-page-1/#comment-93342 kiffi summa Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:05:47 +0000 http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/13566/#comment-93342 <p>Griff: Why does this have to go on and on, as if it has never been discussed before?</p> <p>The reason people do not take advantage of the outside dining ordinance is that when they get the papers/applications, they say "**** that" and then just don't even apply.  <strong>It is simply too burdensome for the return.</strong></p> <p>A downtown work group tried to get this in place for years against monumental staff resistance. When that work group found a ONE sheet of paper model from Webster Groves , MO, that consisted of guidelines on one side, and application on the other, the NF version ...provided by staff... was I believe, a Five page ordinance, and a Three page application.</p> <p>I remember  Mr. O'Connell being asked  in a council meeting about the Webster Groves version; his reply : Ours is almost as short...</p> <p>How many years do you expect people to keep hitting their heads against the yellow brick wall?</p> Griff: Why does this have to go on and on, as if it has never been discussed before?

The reason people do not take advantage of the outside dining ordinance is that when they get the papers/applications, they say “**** that” and then just don’t even apply.  It is simply too burdensome for the return.

A downtown work group tried to get this in place for years against monumental staff resistance. When that work group found a ONE sheet of paper model from Webster Groves , MO, that consisted of guidelines on one side, and application on the other, the NF version …provided by staff… was I believe, a Five page ordinance, and a Three page application.

I remember  Mr. O’Connell being asked  in a council meeting about the Webster Groves version; his reply : Ours is almost as short…

How many years do you expect people to keep hitting their heads against the yellow brick wall?

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