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		<title>By: Mike Jorgenson</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-64961</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jorgenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI
&quot;The City Council in Charles City took a final step in making the Riverfront Development project a reality...&quot;
http://charlescitypress.com/articles/2008/08/19/news/news03.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI<br />
&#8220;The City Council in Charles City took a final step in making the Riverfront Development project a reality&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://charlescitypress.com/articles/2008/08/19/news/news03.txt" rel="nofollow">http://charlescitypress.com/articles/2008/08/19/news/news03.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Bilek</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-60736</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Bilek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
This was discussed at the NDDC forum.  The Prof from St. Olaf studied this issued with other dam removals and generally it is only a very short term problem(few days).  She did say the DNR could test the silt levels before the dam was removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
This was discussed at the NDDC forum.  The Prof from St. Olaf studied this issued with other dam removals and generally it is only a very short term problem(few days).  She did say the DNR could test the silt levels before the dam was removed.</p>
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		<title>By: john george</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-60702</link>
		<dc:creator>john george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Israel has a good post in the other stream (what a great pun!) on the Ames Mill Dam concerning the silt that has settled behind the dam. I was talking to another friend a couple weeks ago, and he brought up the same subject. Perhaps people down stream will experience a lot of brown water before we can have a white water section in town. I think it is a valid concern, though. I suppose much of it could be dredged out, but I have no idea what this would add to the cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Israel has a good post in the other stream (what a great pun!) on the Ames Mill Dam concerning the silt that has settled behind the dam. I was talking to another friend a couple weeks ago, and he brought up the same subject. Perhaps people down stream will experience a lot of brown water before we can have a white water section in town. I think it is a valid concern, though. I suppose much of it could be dredged out, but I have no idea what this would add to the cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jorgenson</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-60638</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jorgenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.boaterparks.com/your_park.html 

Recreation Engineering and Planning website has a lot of useful info regarding WW park projects they have created.
MJ</description>
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<p>Recreation Engineering and Planning website has a lot of useful info regarding WW park projects they have created.<br />
MJ</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Ryan</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-60562</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I like your idea re: the siting of the portage. I had not thought of using space already in the river channel to place the walkway, but that could be the simplest solution. I imagine that a whitewater channel would be somewhat narrower than the current channel, so that could leave space for a path.

The portage idea that first jumped to mind for me would be to build stairs into the river off of the east river walk, but the drawback to that is that it would require canoeists and kayakers to walk across the Water St., and could potentially impinge on the river walk. Ideally we&#039;d be able to build the stairs entirely in the channel, keeping the river walk pretty much how it is now... I&#039;m not sure about how feasible that would be, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I like your idea re: the siting of the portage. I had not thought of using space already in the river channel to place the walkway, but that could be the simplest solution. I imagine that a whitewater channel would be somewhat narrower than the current channel, so that could leave space for a path.</p>
<p>The portage idea that first jumped to mind for me would be to build stairs into the river off of the east river walk, but the drawback to that is that it would require canoeists and kayakers to walk across the Water St., and could potentially impinge on the river walk. Ideally we&#8217;d be able to build the stairs entirely in the channel, keeping the river walk pretty much how it is now&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure about how feasible that would be, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jorgenson</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-60515</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Jorgenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regards to adequacy of flow volume of the Cannon river, a query of the USGS website querying monthly mean flows from 1990-2007 show that the flow rate in cubic feet per second in the CANNON RIVER AT WELCH is:
Jan   Feb   Mar    Apr      May      Jun      Jul       Aug   Sep   Oct   Nov   Dec
397  463  1,130 2,100  1,460  1,740  1,110  870	 770   699   674   528

If we guess that the flow in Northfield would probably be about 200-300cfs less than at Welch, and that the prime months for use might be May-Oct, we have :
 May      Jun      Jul       Aug   Sep   Oct 
1,160  1,440  810     570   470    399 cfs

Even at the low end of the flow, this is a respectable amount of water for the creation of play features in a whitewater park. For a good local comparison, the Vermilion river in Hastings MN has natural features which create beautiful (and very fun) play features at flows above 150cfs. 
Another god comparison would be the play park in Salida Co, which has the following flows:
May      Jun      Jul        Aug    Sep      Oct 
975	1,860	1,140	684	370	345

A competent engineer should be able to tailor the features in the park to whatever natural flow levels you&#039;d care to stipulate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to adequacy of flow volume of the Cannon river, a query of the USGS website querying monthly mean flows from 1990-2007 show that the flow rate in cubic feet per second in the CANNON RIVER AT WELCH is:<br />
Jan   Feb   Mar    Apr      May      Jun      Jul       Aug   Sep   Oct   Nov   Dec<br />
397  463  1,130 2,100  1,460  1,740  1,110  870	 770   699   674   528</p>
<p>If we guess that the flow in Northfield would probably be about 200-300cfs less than at Welch, and that the prime months for use might be May-Oct, we have :<br />
 May      Jun      Jul       Aug   Sep   Oct<br />
1,160  1,440  810     570   470    399 cfs</p>
<p>Even at the low end of the flow, this is a respectable amount of water for the creation of play features in a whitewater park. For a good local comparison, the Vermilion river in Hastings MN has natural features which create beautiful (and very fun) play features at flows above 150cfs.<br />
Another god comparison would be the play park in Salida Co, which has the following flows:<br />
May      Jun      Jul        Aug    Sep      Oct<br />
975	1,860	1,140	684	370	345</p>
<p>A competent engineer should be able to tailor the features in the park to whatever natural flow levels you&#8217;d care to stipulate.</p>
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		<title>By: john george</title>
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		<dc:creator>john george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one inconsistent ingredient in a &quot;whitewater park&quot; concept is the water. It would be interesting to compair the GPS flow of rivers with whitewater parks and the Cannon River. Right now, with the rains, there is quite a bit of flow, but if my memory serves me correctly, there are quite a few days out of the open water season where there are only a couple inches of water going over the dam.

Matt- Concerning the portage connecting the access points, where would you suggest putting it? It seems to me that the only area would be the river walk on the east side of the river. In my opinion, to use that area would really take away from the downtown attraction. Or, are you suggesting narrowing the channel to accomodate a path? Just wonder what your thoughts are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one inconsistent ingredient in a &#8220;whitewater park&#8221; concept is the water. It would be interesting to compair the GPS flow of rivers with whitewater parks and the Cannon River. Right now, with the rains, there is quite a bit of flow, but if my memory serves me correctly, there are quite a few days out of the open water season where there are only a couple inches of water going over the dam.</p>
<p>Matt- Concerning the portage connecting the access points, where would you suggest putting it? It seems to me that the only area would be the river walk on the east side of the river. In my opinion, to use that area would really take away from the downtown attraction. Or, are you suggesting narrowing the channel to accomodate a path? Just wonder what your thoughts are.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a great idea... I would use it all the time (I work at Carleton.)

Another plus... it would be good for downtown businesses, as it would bring a bunch of people into downtown Northfield from the twin cities metro -- plus, it would be an enjoyable spectator spot for festivals.

There are definitely ways to accommodate both downriver canoeists and whitewater kayakers, either by offering a smoothwater channel that would run alongside the whitewater park or by putting in a nice portage (actually, a whitewater park would need put-in/take-out spots both above and below the drop, and a path between the two... which would be beneficial for all users of the river.)

Regarding safety, the consultant is absolutely correct: the current dam is a perfect drowning machine. You&#039;ve probably seen the whole trees that get stuck in it from time to time, tumbling around... there&#039;s no way a person could get out of it! Man-made whitewater parks are many orders of magnitude less dangerous than the current dam.

After a bit of poking through the difficult-to-use mnpca site, it looks like the Cannon is typically a bit better water quality than the Vermillion in Hastings, which is a popular local kayaking spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a great idea&#8230; I would use it all the time (I work at Carleton.)</p>
<p>Another plus&#8230; it would be good for downtown businesses, as it would bring a bunch of people into downtown Northfield from the twin cities metro &#8212; plus, it would be an enjoyable spectator spot for festivals.</p>
<p>There are definitely ways to accommodate both downriver canoeists and whitewater kayakers, either by offering a smoothwater channel that would run alongside the whitewater park or by putting in a nice portage (actually, a whitewater park would need put-in/take-out spots both above and below the drop, and a path between the two&#8230; which would be beneficial for all users of the river.)</p>
<p>Regarding safety, the consultant is absolutely correct: the current dam is a perfect drowning machine. You&#8217;ve probably seen the whole trees that get stuck in it from time to time, tumbling around&#8230; there&#8217;s no way a person could get out of it! Man-made whitewater parks are many orders of magnitude less dangerous than the current dam.</p>
<p>After a bit of poking through the difficult-to-use mnpca site, it looks like the Cannon is typically a bit better water quality than the Vermillion in Hastings, which is a popular local kayaking spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jorgenson</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-60322</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jorgenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the local whitewater paddling community would be overjoyed if Northfield were to create a whitewater park. I guarantee that you will receive support from the local whitewater paddling club (www.rapidsriders.com). 

Here is a link for info on some other communities that have successfully created whitewater play parks. http://www.ripboard.com/community/whitewaterpark.shtml

Mike J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the local whitewater paddling community would be overjoyed if Northfield were to create a whitewater park. I guarantee that you will receive support from the local whitewater paddling club (www.rapidsriders.com). </p>
<p>Here is a link for info on some other communities that have successfully created whitewater play parks. <a href="http://www.ripboard.com/community/whitewaterpark.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.ripboard.com/community/whitewaterpark.shtml</a></p>
<p>Mike J</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jorgenson</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-60321</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jorgenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the local whitewater paddling community would be overjoyed if Northfield were to create a whitewater park. I guarantee that you will receive support from the local whitewater paddling club (www.rapidsriders.com). 

Here is a link for info on some other communities that have successfully created whitewater play parks.

Mike J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the local whitewater paddling community would be overjoyed if Northfield were to create a whitewater park. I guarantee that you will receive support from the local whitewater paddling club (www.rapidsriders.com). </p>
<p>Here is a link for info on some other communities that have successfully created whitewater play parks.</p>
<p>Mike J</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Currier</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-59092</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Currier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 13:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on the Cannon River and the M-o-M Dam,

this coming Tuesday morning, 8 am at the Archer House:

http://nddc.org/weblog/post/1131/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the Cannon River and the M-o-M Dam,</p>
<p>this coming Tuesday morning, 8 am at the Archer House:</p>
<p><a href="http://nddc.org/weblog/post/1131/" rel="nofollow">http://nddc.org/weblog/post/1131/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ross Currier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Currier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Griff -

Maybe we could get David Hvistendahl to weigh in on this latest news.  I ran into him yesterday at GBM and he&#039;d heard of several potential sources of financing for different aspects of this complicated but exciting project.

- Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Griff -</p>
<p>Maybe we could get David Hvistendahl to weigh in on this latest news.  I ran into him yesterday at GBM and he&#8217;d heard of several potential sources of financing for different aspects of this complicated but exciting project.</p>
<p>- Ross</p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-46420</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; Suzy Rook has a story in today&#039;s Nfld News titled &lt;a href=&quot;http://northfieldnews.com/main.asp?FromHome=1&amp;TypeID=1&amp;ArticleID=22099&amp;SectionID=21&amp;SubSectionID=451&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dam work delayed as state funds sought&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Plans to rework the Malt-O-Meal dam were put on hold this week, allowing the company to seek state funding for the project. Harry Anderson, a senior project manager for the cereal manufacturer, said the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources approached the company recently, suggesting it could help pay for the reconstruction. Coordinating with the state&#039;s budget cycle, Anderson said, means the project won&#039;t begin until 2009 at the earliest.­
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Suzy Rook has a story in today&#8217;s Nfld News titled <a href="http://northfieldnews.com/main.asp?FromHome=1&amp;TypeID=1&amp;ArticleID=22099&amp;SectionID=21&amp;SubSectionID=451" rel="nofollow">Dam work delayed as state funds sought</a>.
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<blockquote><p>Plans to rework the Malt-O-Meal dam were put on hold this week, allowing the company to seek state funding for the project. Harry Anderson, a senior project manager for the cereal manufacturer, said the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources approached the company recently, suggesting it could help pay for the reconstruction. Coordinating with the state&#8217;s budget cycle, Anderson said, means the project won&#8217;t begin until 2009 at the earliest.­
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		<title>By: Chris Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I would LOVE to see a whitewater park in town.  What a great idea!   Please let me know if there is anything we can do..  

Chris Ash
crash@toasterfork.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I would LOVE to see a whitewater park in town.  What a great idea!   Please let me know if there is anything we can do..  </p>
<p>Chris Ash<br />
<a href="mailto:crash@toasterfork.com">crash@toasterfork.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; So how polluted is the Cannon River as it flows through Northfield?
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&lt;p&gt;Tracy&#039;s blog post last August titled &lt;a href=&quot;http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/2182/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cannon River Pollution Control&lt;/a&gt; kicked off some discussion but now we have a compelling reason to worry, ie, the fecal bacteria that Larry mentioned above. Or are kayakers not worried about such things?
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> So how polluted is the Cannon River as it flows through Northfield?
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<p>Tracy&#8217;s blog post last August titled <a href="http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/2182/" rel="nofollow">Cannon River Pollution Control</a> kicked off some discussion but now we have a compelling reason to worry, ie, the fecal bacteria that Larry mentioned above. Or are kayakers not worried about such things?</p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; Here&#039;s Dave Hvistendahl&#039;s summary email that he sent to Malt-O-Meal, Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, City of Northfield, Northfield Downtown Development Corporation, and the Cannon River Watershed Partnership:
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  &lt;br /&gt;Transmitted herewith is an outline of the legal analysis of the efficacy of transferring the dam to a non-profit corporation, then leasing the recreational facility to the City of Northfield.
  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The replacement of Ames Mill dam, owned by Malt-O-Meal Company (MOM), offers a once in a life time opportunity to improve the quality of the Cannon River for canoes and Kayaks, while removing an impediment to fish migration.&#160; Malt-O-Meal has indicated a willingness to explore the possibility of adding canoe and kayak chutes to the new dam structure, provided that Malt-O-Meal can transfer the dam to a non-profit agency, and thereby avoid the liabilities inherent in ownership, and accomplish it at a reasonable cost.&#160; The DNR, however, will require MOM to continue to pay for the maintenance of the replacement structure to DNR standards.
  &lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;The logical group to serve as dam owner would be the Northfield Downtown Development Corporation (NDDC).&#160; By this email I request that they schedule a board meeting to consider the proposal.
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  &lt;br /&gt;The new structure cannot substantially reduce the water level of the impoundment area, due to the possibility that the reduced level might cause subsistence in buildings upstream.&#160; A reduction in water level of a foot or two may be possible,which would narrow the channel upstream.
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  &lt;br /&gt;The initial proposal by Barr Engineering was deficient in a number of aspects.&#160; The basic plan was to tier or step down from the existing dam, which would have increased high water levels against Malt-O-Meal, Froggy Bottoms River Pub, and other buildings along the river, as well as reduce the maximum flowage under the Mn DOT&#039;s 4th Street Bridge.&#160; (The 4th Street Bridge has its own original 1930&#039;s superstructure).&#160; It is unlikely that MN DOT would have approved&#160; plan that increased stress on the bridge.&#160;&#160; Barr Engineering&#039;s design did not receive a good reception in the city because the structure did not approximate natural rapids. Many people objected to the uniformity of the structure, based upon reviews of other dam replacements done by Barr Engineering.
  &lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;A number of cities from Ohio to Colorado have created tourist magnets by creating white water runs in old millstreams.&#160; The major project in Minnesota which has been crawling along for a number of years is the St. Anthony Falls project in Minneapolis.&#160; The consulting engineer for the project has been the McLaughlin Whitewater Design Group (www.mclaughlinwhitewater.com).&#160;&#160; I spoke with Risa Shimoda, strategic planner with McLaughlin Whitewater, who said that they had a good working relationship with the DNR, and that they have worked as both primary and consulting engineers on such projects.&#160; If Barr has not designed a whitewater structure, MOM might find it advantageous to use McLaughlin in some capacity.
  &lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;The main costs for the City of Northfield would be to construct a walkway or stairs as part of its Bridge Square river wall reconstruction that would allow paddlers to portage upstream at river level to repeat the run.&#160; The construction of a weir near the Second Street bridge could raise the level of the water one foot below the dam structure to improve the aesthetics and navigability of the two block stretch during July and August.&#160; Andrew Berglund of Northfield designed a self-cleaning concrete weir in the 1980&#039;s for use in the river.&#160; The advantage of Berglund&#039;s design is that it is simple and easily replicated, using wood forms. (We will forward a copy to the DNR and the Northfield City Engineer.) The city would also be responsible for maintaining the boat landings and warning signs.
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  &lt;br /&gt;Time is of the essence, since MOM would like to start the project this spring.&#160; I have therefore opted for a blanket email to the main parties involved to expedite the discussion.
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  &lt;br /&gt;I must add the disclaimer that the law firm of Hvistendahl, Moersch &amp; Dorsey is not representing any of the potential participants in this project.&#160; We have initiated this communication in the public interest and for the long term benefit of downtown Northfield.&#160; Each party should consult with its own legal counsel in determining its responsibilities and liabilities, as well as the wording of any final agreement.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Here&#8217;s Dave Hvistendahl&#8217;s summary email that he sent to Malt-O-Meal, Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, City of Northfield, Northfield Downtown Development Corporation, and the Cannon River Watershed Partnership:</p>
<p>Transmitted herewith is an outline of the legal analysis of the efficacy of transferring the dam to a non-profit corporation, then leasing the recreational facility to the City of Northfield.<br />
  
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<blockquote><p>The replacement of Ames Mill dam, owned by Malt-O-Meal Company (MOM), offers a once in a life time opportunity to improve the quality of the Cannon River for canoes and Kayaks, while removing an impediment to fish migration.&nbsp; Malt-O-Meal has indicated a willingness to explore the possibility of adding canoe and kayak chutes to the new dam structure, provided that Malt-O-Meal can transfer the dam to a non-profit agency, and thereby avoid the liabilities inherent in ownership, and accomplish it at a reasonable cost.&nbsp; The DNR, however, will require MOM to continue to pay for the maintenance of the replacement structure to DNR standards.</p>
<p>The logical group to serve as dam owner would be the Northfield Downtown Development Corporation (NDDC).&nbsp; By this email I request that they schedule a board meeting to consider the proposal.</p>
<p>The new structure cannot substantially reduce the water level of the impoundment area, due to the possibility that the reduced level might cause subsistence in buildings upstream.&nbsp; A reduction in water level of a foot or two may be possible,which would narrow the channel upstream.</p>
<p>The initial proposal by Barr Engineering was deficient in a number of aspects.&nbsp; The basic plan was to tier or step down from the existing dam, which would have increased high water levels against Malt-O-Meal, Froggy Bottoms River Pub, and other buildings along the river, as well as reduce the maximum flowage under the Mn DOT&#8217;s 4th Street Bridge.&nbsp; (The 4th Street Bridge has its own original 1930&#8242;s superstructure).&nbsp; It is unlikely that MN DOT would have approved&nbsp; plan that increased stress on the bridge.&nbsp;&nbsp; Barr Engineering&#8217;s design did not receive a good reception in the city because the structure did not approximate natural rapids. Many people objected to the uniformity of the structure, based upon reviews of other dam replacements done by Barr Engineering.</p>
<p>A number of cities from Ohio to Colorado have created tourist magnets by creating white water runs in old millstreams.&nbsp; The major project in Minnesota which has been crawling along for a number of years is the St. Anthony Falls project in Minneapolis.&nbsp; The consulting engineer for the project has been the McLaughlin Whitewater Design Group (www.mclaughlinwhitewater.com).&nbsp;&nbsp; I spoke with Risa Shimoda, strategic planner with McLaughlin Whitewater, who said that they had a good working relationship with the DNR, and that they have worked as both primary and consulting engineers on such projects.&nbsp; If Barr has not designed a whitewater structure, MOM might find it advantageous to use McLaughlin in some capacity.</p>
<p>The main costs for the City of Northfield would be to construct a walkway or stairs as part of its Bridge Square river wall reconstruction that would allow paddlers to portage upstream at river level to repeat the run.&nbsp; The construction of a weir near the Second Street bridge could raise the level of the water one foot below the dam structure to improve the aesthetics and navigability of the two block stretch during July and August.&nbsp; Andrew Berglund of Northfield designed a self-cleaning concrete weir in the 1980&#8242;s for use in the river.&nbsp; The advantage of Berglund&#8217;s design is that it is simple and easily replicated, using wood forms. (We will forward a copy to the DNR and the Northfield City Engineer.) The city would also be responsible for maintaining the boat landings and warning signs.</p>
<p>Time is of the essence, since MOM would like to start the project this spring.&nbsp; I have therefore opted for a blanket email to the main parties involved to expedite the discussion.</p>
<p>I must add the disclaimer that the law firm of Hvistendahl, Moersch &amp; Dorsey is not representing any of the potential participants in this project.&nbsp; We have initiated this communication in the public interest and for the long term benefit of downtown Northfield.&nbsp; Each party should consult with its own legal counsel in determining its responsibilities and liabilities, as well as the wording of any final agreement.<br />
  
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		<title>By: Ross Currier</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44459</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Currier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hayes -

Maybe some creative architect can &quot;ghost it in&quot; at the current location.

- Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayes -</p>
<p>Maybe some creative architect can &#8220;ghost it in&#8221; at the current location.</p>
<p>- Ross</p>
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		<title>By: Hayes Scriven</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44457</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayes Scriven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross,

That is a beautiful vision.  After sitting through some Streetscape meeting I can almost share your vision.  I am just worried about the historical significance for the dam.  Especially if the original dam is under the one that is there now.

I am in agreement the dam needs to go it is just really sad for me... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross,</p>
<p>That is a beautiful vision.  After sitting through some Streetscape meeting I can almost share your vision.  I am just worried about the historical significance for the dam.  Especially if the original dam is under the one that is there now.</p>
<p>I am in agreement the dam needs to go it is just really sad for me&#8230; <img src='http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ross Currier</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44455</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Currier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hayes -

Last night, I was imagining the Cannon River area from the 5th Street Bridge to the 4th Street Bridge...a cleaned up river bank, enhanced Riverwalk, and Ray Jacobson&#039;s &quot;Harvest&quot; sculpture on the east side, and perhaps a new Skatepark, enhanced Ames Park, and maybe a kayak launch on the west side...with safe but stimulating stretch of navigable whitewater in between.

- Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayes -</p>
<p>Last night, I was imagining the Cannon River area from the 5th Street Bridge to the 4th Street Bridge&#8230;a cleaned up river bank, enhanced Riverwalk, and Ray Jacobson&#8217;s &#8220;Harvest&#8221; sculpture on the east side, and perhaps a new Skatepark, enhanced Ames Park, and maybe a kayak launch on the west side&#8230;with safe but stimulating stretch of navigable whitewater in between.</p>
<p>- Ross</p>
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		<title>By: Hayes Scriven</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44421</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayes Scriven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After listening to the podcast...I am more in favor of getting rid of the dam, as long as what replaced it looked very natural.  Now, I have question to those of you that have been involved for a longer than I have...I have heard rumors that the original dam is underneath the dam that is there now.  Is that true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After listening to the podcast&#8230;I am more in favor of getting rid of the dam, as long as what replaced it looked very natural.  Now, I have question to those of you that have been involved for a longer than I have&#8230;I have heard rumors that the original dam is underneath the dam that is there now.  Is that true?</p>
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		<title>By: Bright Spencer</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44417</link>
		<dc:creator>Bright Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the waterfall, but it&#039;s hard to listen to music right next to it.

As for how to get anything going in this or any town, you have to
be willing to give addresses of places, let up on the idea that all
know what you are talking about when you are talking in letters
and not words, be willing to change your normal meeting site
in favor of what others are able to navigate, AND how about 
inviting more seniors with experience and know how to meeting
meetings.  Our living ancestors should be honored in this way
every day., with special accommodations, special invitations
and special treatment at the meetings.

Since we have moved here, the only ones that have really reached
out to us and treated us like real people and not just possible customers,
are the elderly of this town.  They have been very refreshing to socialize
with, full of useful information and wise words, and willing to share all they have...within reason, of course.  They are Northfield&#039;s greatest asset imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the waterfall, but it&#8217;s hard to listen to music right next to it.</p>
<p>As for how to get anything going in this or any town, you have to<br />
be willing to give addresses of places, let up on the idea that all<br />
know what you are talking about when you are talking in letters<br />
and not words, be willing to change your normal meeting site<br />
in favor of what others are able to navigate, AND how about<br />
inviting more seniors with experience and know how to meeting<br />
meetings.  Our living ancestors should be honored in this way<br />
every day., with special accommodations, special invitations<br />
and special treatment at the meetings.</p>
<p>Since we have moved here, the only ones that have really reached<br />
out to us and treated us like real people and not just possible customers,<br />
are the elderly of this town.  They have been very refreshing to socialize<br />
with, full of useful information and wise words, and willing to share all they have&#8230;within reason, of course.  They are Northfield&#8217;s greatest asset imho.</p>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44405</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt; I&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/2957/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogged the podcast &lt;/a&gt;of yesterday&#039;s show with Dave. All discussion on this issue continues here.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FYI: the plan for the dam initially proposed by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.barr.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barr Engineering&lt;/a&gt; is described in this Dec. 12 article in the Northfield News: &lt;a href=&quot;http://northfieldnews.com/main.asp?Search=1&amp;ArticleID=21659&amp;SectionID=21&amp;SubSectionID=451&amp;S=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bye Bye Waterfall?&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;­</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I&#8217;ve <a href="http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/archives/2957/" rel="nofollow">blogged the podcast </a>of yesterday&#8217;s show with Dave. All discussion on this issue continues here.
</p>
<p>FYI: the plan for the dam initially proposed by <a href="http://www.barr.com/" rel="nofollow">Barr Engineering</a> is described in this Dec. 12 article in the Northfield News: <a href="http://northfieldnews.com/main.asp?Search=1&amp;ArticleID=21659&amp;SectionID=21&amp;SubSectionID=451&amp;S=1" rel="nofollow">Bye Bye Waterfall?</a>
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		<title>By: Griff Wigley</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44299</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff Wigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Hvistendahl will be our guest on today&#039;s Locally Grown podcast, live at 5:30pm on KYMN 1080 am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Hvistendahl will be our guest on today&#8217;s Locally Grown podcast, live at 5:30pm on KYMN 1080 am.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Bretts</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44234</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Bretts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the safety center (or a new building on that site) would make a good outfitting place, with room to store canoes and kayaks, space to sell gear, parking and a visible location. It also could offer the visitors&#039; center and public restrooms/secure parking for bicyclists.
I think it would be hard to make the liquor store site work, given the amount of space/parking needed. But I really like the idea of people thinking about lots of options. 
One thing to keep in mind when talking about a visitors&#039; center, or any other project, is that it&#039;s fine to talk about where local people might want it to be, but the key is to find locations that work best to draw customers. We might think the liquor store spot would be a good visitors&#039; center, but what&#039;s the best spot for catching the attention -- and money -- of visitors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the safety center (or a new building on that site) would make a good outfitting place, with room to store canoes and kayaks, space to sell gear, parking and a visible location. It also could offer the visitors&#8217; center and public restrooms/secure parking for bicyclists.<br />
I think it would be hard to make the liquor store site work, given the amount of space/parking needed. But I really like the idea of people thinking about lots of options.<br />
One thing to keep in mind when talking about a visitors&#8217; center, or any other project, is that it&#8217;s fine to talk about where local people might want it to be, but the key is to find locations that work best to draw customers. We might think the liquor store spot would be a good visitors&#8217; center, but what&#8217;s the best spot for catching the attention &#8212; and money &#8212; of visitors?</p>
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		<title>By: Charley Skinner</title>
		<link>http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/2939/comment-page-1/#comment-44222</link>
		<dc:creator>Charley Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the positive comments, and would add one additional item that was only briefly mentioned.  There is no reasonable portage for those who might choose to use one.  Carrying canoes, kayaks and gear through the city streets, or down the sidewalks and stairs is awkward at best.  And there is no clear and consistently reasonable location to launch boats below the falls/rapids.  If we are going to more readily attract boaters, this will be an essential element of the new venue.  

Who is interested?  What existing organization might best be suited to address this issue?  Do we need yet another organization to take on this opportunity? (I hope not)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the positive comments, and would add one additional item that was only briefly mentioned.  There is no reasonable portage for those who might choose to use one.  Carrying canoes, kayaks and gear through the city streets, or down the sidewalks and stairs is awkward at best.  And there is no clear and consistently reasonable location to launch boats below the falls/rapids.  If we are going to more readily attract boaters, this will be an essential element of the new venue.  </p>
<p>Who is interested?  What existing organization might best be suited to address this issue?  Do we need yet another organization to take on this opportunity? (I hope not)</p>
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