There’s a relatively new non-profit organization in Northfield called Ice Now “promoting the need for a new, multi-sheet, multi-purpose, skating facility.”
Many of the recent letters to the editor in the Northfield News have been about the proposed facility.
- Should a new arena serve many sports, not just hockey, like Richard Goerwitz suggests?
- Is there a “tone of entitlement” among the hockey boosters and a lack of facilities planning by the city as Randy Jennings contends?
- Would a new ice arena become a center of “social, commercial and recreational activity” for the community as Michael O’Donnell envisions?
I didn’t like it that the City of Northfield made a decision last year to construct a $3 million dollar outdoor pool (a single use recreational facility for only 3 months of the year) with virtually no public debate or consideration of the overall community recreation needs.
I’ve not made up my mind on the skating facility, but it seems like a good time to have an online discussion about it. And then maybe in a week or so I’ll put up a straw poll on the issue.
8:30 am update: scade pointed out in a comment below that Letters to the Editor in the Northfield News are NOT accessible to non-subscribers. This is true if one navigates through their website. But I’ve provided links above that do allow for direct access. I hope they won’t mind since A) I’m trying to foster discussion on an important civic issue; and B) if they really want to block access, then my providing the URLs should not work anyway.
I believe you do need a subscription to our beloved Northfield News to read the online edition… unlike the startrib, the NY Times, the Washington Post….But, yeah, with the recent addition of Grif as Editor I hope this policy can be looked at…
With your competitors offering free online access and your affinity for the internet I hope you consider following the lead of the times, and the strib and giving us free access.
Scade, the Northfield News currently blocks access to some of its content but not all. The Letters to the Editor section is one area that non-subscribers can access.
Sam Gett is the new editor and publisher of the Northfield News. He can be reached at sgett@northfieldnews.com. Let’s hope as the new media guy for the corporation, he changes this policy. If he changed it today, then more people would read his Wed. column on the ice arena.
From the computers i access the nfld news i am unable to get to the letters to the editor. The letter dates appear but not the content. Also, a snipit of content appears for many items (news) but access to the stories is denied without a loggin code… Maybe they could impose a Northfield News Select option like the times so we could access certain portions of the paper.
Thanks for the email to the new editor but really i would perfer to continue thinking that Griff was the new guy in charge.
Ahhh, thanks for the info! I’ve amended my blog post. If you follow my links to the letters, you should be able to view them. But if you just go to the top level of their site and try to navigate your way to them, you can’t do it without logging in.
Griff: I’m with you regarding the City’s decision to go forward on the pool project without a public vote. As much as the community may want an amenity like a pool or an ice arena, the law in Minnesota is pretty clear that citizens must authorize such spending through voter referendums. Using the taxing authority of the
HRAEDA to build a pool is almost unethical. Almost. Pretty close to the line. I hope the City Council will not make the same decision on new indoor ice.That’s good to know, Scott. I don’t remember anyone raising this issue at the time. Jeesh.
Didn’t citizens reject a referendum for a pool back in the 90s?
[FYI, Scott’s comment said “HRA” but it was the EDA, so I’ve edited it with his permission.]
I can’t recall exactly, but I think it was 1998 when the City offered citizens a chance to approve a public referendum for a new outdoor aquatic center. I was the City Administrator and Randy Distad was the Parks & Rec Director. The bond issue was defeated by less than 100 votes. It was very close, but citizens said no. We did not consider the “lease-revenue bond” scheme because the State Legislature did not give taxing and borrowing authority to City EDA’s and HRA’s to build public swimming pools, for goodnessake. Those taxing and borrowing powers are supposed to be reserved for doing truly necessary things in a community, such as blight removal, urban redevelopment or economic development. Not building outdoor swimming pools and indoor ice arenas.
Thanks, Scott. I’ll see if I can get some members of the EDA or City Council to comment.
I hope you do get both Council and EDA to comment, Griff. In a small town, and without indepth/investigative news reporting, often the actions of these two bodies are not “transparent” enough. And way too often, one city board or commision will make demeaning remarks about another boards decision, as if one is doing their job and another is not taking their job seriously. (there is a recent example of this which I’ll leave unspecified here).
There was , however, so much discussion of the new swimming pool at the time, albeit mostly the two neighborhood groups, that anyone could have started a larger, more widespread, community conversation.
One wonders why the newspaper does not see this as a way to both serve the community and raise readership.
Griff,
When we talked you hinted that Northfield had multiple public asset problems to deal with, including (1) new ice, (2) upgrade safety center (PD/FD), (3) upgrade City Hall, (4) library.
Can you tell me who has the definitive list and who can give me costs of each project/option as they sit at this point?
I’d like to put together a decision table to show Dundas Planning Commmission and Dundas City Hall how one city deals with this sort of conflicting needs.
Hello Group,
I pulled a letter from my files I wrote to the city council in late 2005 before we voted on the pool issue. Substitute “hockey rink” or “liquor store” or any other capital item for pool – the issue is still unresolved. We are starting to work on a Capital Improvements Plan that balances funding needs with funding sources but I think we are 6 months away from getting a good working document.
It is a long letter for this venue, but, what can I say, I’m a long winded politician.
Response to bruce Morlan’s comment #10………… You should talk to the city administrator, Al Roder, on this one. There is a list of city facilities that need updating, rehabbing, or complete rebuilding, BUT the city is in the process of doing a “Space Needs Assessment” with a consulting firm by the name of Hays/Dobbs; this is not yet completed. When that assessment is done, the council will have to embark on the stormy seas of prioritizing those needs/facilities, and then determining budgets. Or maybe determining budgets will be a parallel track, and budgets will determine whether some projects are needs or wants.
I assume there will be a public input process at that point, and more lobbying than the council wants to deal with.
Somehow, they (administration and council) will have to figure out how the public input will be a broad spectrum of opinion, and not just specific interest groups.
And then, there will have to be a referendum, because that is the proper way to do it, at least for the recreational parts. The city services parts, police/fire, etc. can legitimately be bonded without referendum, I think.
Is that correct, Mr. Roder?
Kiffi, I don’t think Al’s regularly checking the blog conversation here but from Scott Neal’s comments above, that sounds correct.
Councilor Jim, thanks for re-posting your letter of opposition. Did the issue come up among Council members or by the City attorney or anyone else that the lease-revenue bond approach to fund the pool was specifically counter to the Legislature’s guidelines on the city’s taxing and borrowing authority?
Jim,
Thanks for your thoughtful letter — and your rather frightening but not surprising assessment of the lack of process and planning for capital improvements. I, too was upset that the pool project was done without any coordination with other needs.
This isn’t spending to recover from to a tornado, it’s planning for projects that have been under discussion for years. The council at this point should just be updating a plan already in place, not starting from scratch. Under the circumstances, the liquor store should be delayed until the list is done (which would give time for a referendum on whether the city should sell liquor).
There are great examples of mixed use facilities (city hall/library/art center/etc.) throughout the area, so maybe we should look around and see how other cities have solved these problems and what the costs have been. Most cities have their plans and projects on their websites, so we can do virtual tours without leaving town.
For example, Lakeville has plans on its website for a new liquor store — and a price tag of $4 million. And if we can make money from a liquor store, why not add a bar and make more money?
A few million here, a few million there, all this could really add up. Add in the pressure from very vocal groups to get their way and it’s clear the council needs to get a plan.
Hey, here’s maybe something we can learn from our neighbor to the North:
With grand sports-complex plan, Farmington goes for gold
http://www.startribune.com/332/story/1010338.html